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rosco New user 4 Posts |
Should coin sleights be learned so that it can be done with both left and right hands? Thanks again.
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MrCyNic Loyal user England 238 Posts |
Good question.
In principle I'd say yes, although I've rarely been in a situation where I've been forced to make a really tough move with my off hand. The basic tools of the trade (palms, concealments etc.), these I think really do need the procedural flexibility of using either hand. As for the flourishes and more obscure sleights, I guess that's more of a personal choice. I spent a long time forcing my stupid right hand to learn to make single drops from a coin stack in Classic Palm (I'm a lefty), but I almost never had to rely on being able to do so until I found out about Reed McClintock's work. I only put the extra work in out of pig-headedness, but now I'm genuinely glad I did. Hope that's helpful. Cheers, Cy. |
Andy H Regular user London 106 Posts |
I say stick with your main hand unless you are forced, you will find you make most moves with your dominant hand, for example the matrix moves.
Paul Harris: My Astonishing Hero
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Michaels Elite user 412 Posts |
For the most part your dominant hand will serve you well. However, with certain coin switches and matrix routines I find it advantageous to be able to do various palms and retention vanishes well with either hand. Any time you can execute a sleight with both hands you open up many more doors for performing variations of routines.
Michaels
"Our technology is ahead of our humanity"
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Zap Regular user 181 Posts |
Definitely learn to palm with both hands. Do transfer vanishes using the hand that feels natural to you.
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Catbacker Regular user Manhattan, KS 145 Posts |
I agree with Zap. You definitely want to learn all the palms with both hands, maybe with the exception of the full back palm. (My right hand just won't cooperate!)
I would also learn the Bobo Switch and David Roth's shuttle pass with both hands. As well as the majority of the subtleties. The bottom line is that you are going to need to conceal coins in both hands at some point, so learning as many as you can with both hands will really help. Scott
"Of course, that's just my opinion... I could be wrong." Dennis Miller
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Socrates Regular user 197 Posts |
Use both hands for anything you do and then you'll be set anytime.
Socrates |
rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3615 Posts |
I used my right hand predominatly when first starting out. Then I had an injury, and while in re-hab I had no choice but to use my left hand.
I really had a hard time using my left at first, but gradually got better. Now I can use both hands for almost any sleight. I am glad that I learned to use both. If you can, I say learn to use both as best as you can. You will probably always be better with your dominant hand, but it sure comes in handy (no pun intended) to be skilled in both hands! |
harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Like Rowdy, I injured my right(dominant hand).
In fact it was immobile for about 6 months. I learned to do a lot with my left hand. Before that some things were suprisingly easier with my left hand. An example was I learned the coin roll down first with my left hand. Now I can do it at the same time with both. Nearly Normal Ideas on moves that are useful with both hands. Classic P Tenkai P Downs P Coin Roll Hand Wash Vanish Harris Deutsch Laughologist www.nearlynormalmagic
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
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tkuhns Regular user Kirksville, Missouri 134 Posts |
Painters without hands paint with their feet. One lady I know was born with half a right arm and plays piano better than me.
Honestly, I wouldn't worry about what I SHOULD be doing for one minute. Just do what works for you. If you find a genuine need to do a slight with your other hand -- and you can't work around it -- then you have a bridge to cross. |
harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Another useful thing to learn with both hands is Roths(I think) palm to palm coin change.
Harris
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
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Frank Tougas Inner circle Minneapolis, MN 1712 Posts |
I am agreeing with tkuhns on this one. Don't worry about things you need not worry about. Focus on making your coin magic technically competent and positively entertaining rather than being concerned with what you should be doing. In the end, the people we most emulate in coin work, traveled their own road.
Years ago, when Al Schneider on Coins first came out (Long out of print now) I was working the dealer booth and people were facinated by all the fancy sleight-of-hand coin magic I was doing. I said all you needed to know to do the routines in the book was a passable classic palm. Back then even that scared many magicians off. Now twelve year old kids do great classic palms - and the magic in that book still "kills em". The definition of competence is "doing WHAT you are doing WHILE you are doing it." not "thinking about what you should be doing while you are doing something else." Keep that in mind and someday we will be emulating you.
Frank Tougas The Twin Cities Most "Kid Experienced" Children's Performer :"Creating Positive Memories...One Smile at a Time"
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Learning the basics with your dominant hand will go faster if you focus on correctness.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Jemy Regular user 128 Posts |
Guess it don't takes more time to practice with both hand so don't hesitate to learn to palm with your both hand. And the more you are technicaly the less trouble you will have in performance.
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