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Paul.W Veteran user 338 Posts |
Hello Everybody
I wanted to buy the Master Prediction System but saw the price and thought it was expensive ( 2995$) I than looked around and saw the same thing for 385$ at Pro-Magic Can anyone tell me the difference and which one is worth buying Pro-Magic: http://www.pro-magic.com/shop/product.ph......2&page=1 Wellington/ Malloys: http://www.wellingtonent.com/products/classicpredict.html Thank You Hope to Get great reply's |
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lucavolpe Inner circle Italy - London 3349 Posts |
Hi Paul
personally I have the one from Malloy and is GREAT!!!! The props is the top noch and very professionally build and will last forever. Anyway I think you can tell the difference between the promagic one and the wellington/malloy... I understand that the price is different BUT if you want something professional you need to choose the best! ;)
Luca Volpe
"The Italian Mentalist" https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/lucavolpe http://www.lucavolpe.com |
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Kevin Ridgeway V.I.P. Indianapolis, IN & Phoenix, AZ 1832 Posts |
Is it just me or does this sound like an ad instead of a legitimate question?
Kevin
Living Illusions
Ridgeway & Johnson Entertainment Inc Kevin Ridgeway & Kristen Johnson aka Lady Houdini The World's Premier Female Escape Artist www.LadyHoudini.com www.livingillusions.com |
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Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
It is only $385 because it looks cheap. A cheap rip off and not a very deceptive one at all. But I guess it really depends on what look you are going for. Cheap or Professional.
Kevin, You are right it does sound like an ad. It is the second like it in 4 months. Patrick |
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
Yeah, its hard to believe people ask something like that...the ultimate box looks like a 10 buck make-up case someone would pick up at Walmarts and they ask which one is better! Geesh!
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IDOTRIX Elite user Darien,il 467 Posts |
Is their a way a PREDICTION chest is suppose to look?
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Bradacal Special user 592 Posts |
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On 2009-11-08 18:24, IDOTRIX wrote: \lol |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On 2009-11-08 12:23, Paul.W wrote: How many times are you going to do this? Post these links with a new Café name that is
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Magic Patrick Inner circle Minnesota 1591 Posts |
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On 2009-11-08 18:24, IDOTRIX wrote: Yeah! Not Cheap! |
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Aaron Smith Magic Inner circle Portland, OR 1447 Posts |
I'm guessing we're not going to hear from "Paul W" again... I've already spent to much time on this thread. I'm outta here....
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Paul.W Veteran user 338 Posts |
Hey
Sorry ... I had no internet for the last 12 hours. I appreciate your comments and understand its the same effect but different quality. Can this effect be done without an assitant? Paul.W |
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makeupguy Inner circle 1411 Posts |
PAul W.
yes.. you can totally do this alone...and predict lottery tickets in a state of your choice.. and with the money you save on the cheap one.. you can buy more lottery tickets when you get your prediction right! Seriously... why not just delete this thread before it starts to get ugly |
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RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
OK, not to be a pest about this, but I do have a few questions that will follow a statement here.
The statement: I don't own either of these effects and have no interest in purchasing them, so I have no monetary interest here, strictly being inquisitive. Here are the questions: Does this effect belong to anyone? If so, who? If not, then why shouldn't Pro-Magic (who I do not know and have never bought anything from) be able to sell it? |
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RVH Magic Special user 877 Posts |
It's a Dick Zimmerman creation & only Malloy Modern Magic ( http://www.malloymodernmagic.com/master_prediction.htm) & Wellington Enterprises (
http://www.wellingtonent.com/products/predict.html )have the rights to sell them! (Bill Smith used to make them as well years ago...) |
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bojanbarisic Elite user Croatia 462 Posts |
I am sure that this prop was used in Next Uri Geller show 2-3 times and it is not the same as Dick Zimmermann`s version. Table top is only 1 cm thick. Capsule is always in vertical position and that gives away loading method used in Pro-Magic version.
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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts |
The cheap version is being distributed by Mak Magic. Someone actually gave me one as a gift, not knowing it was a knock-off. I've taken a look at it and it's nowhere near as well built as the Malloy version. When you combine this with the fact that ownership of the concept belongs to someone else, it's easy to conclude that this is not something I would ever present in my show. I don't want to be known for cheap props and illegal knock-offs.
Kent
"Believing is Seeing"
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JoyJoy Special user Germany 514 Posts |
A rip-off.
And btw: I did hear from a seller here, that every box he selled (10 pieces) got broken after a real short time and he did get directly complains about it and had to refund them. So not only an idiotic stolen rip-off - but also a bad not working prop (like so often with all stolen props). |
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w_s_anderson Inner circle The United States 1226 Posts |
Paul W.
Here is some real world advice that I learned the hard way. Many, many years ago when I first got into performing illusions I did not have a mentor, nor was a familiar with the "Café" or other online forums. (nor should I have been performing illusions) At that time I was the guy that most members of this forum can't stand. I'm pretty embarrassed about it, but the past is the past and I have since corrected the grave error and I don't mind talking about it as it can serve as a learning tool for others. I saw John Shryock perform the "origami" on a Worlds Greatest Magic special and it instantly became my favorite illusion. Much to my surprise, I couldn't believe that there was an Origami being sold on ebay for 800 bucks. I jumped at the chance to own it. When it arrived I was mortified. It looked nothing like the one I saw on T.V. and it was not deceptive unless I was against an all black backdrop and the audience was at least 30 feet away. On top of that only two of the three swords would fit when my assistant was in it...and I had a tiny assistant. It wasn't until later, when I actually started to learn more about this craft and was becoming pretty good at it when I found out about knock off illusions, and the ethics of magic. I have since bought a legit origami made by wellington and the difference between the two is undescribable. It is like comparing a painting from Van Gough to artwork done by my 5 year old son. It is far better to pony up the cash for a legit prop, than to pay a cheaper price for a piece of junk. Even though the rip off magic company will describe it as the same as the "more expensive" model, the effect is not nearly the same. Take it from the guy who's been there, done that, and wasted a lot of money. Go for the legitimate prop, it will last longer, look better, and it's just the right thing to do. Scott |
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Paul.W Veteran user 338 Posts |
Hey Scott
The moral of the story is " never trust ebay" I'm joking Anyways thank you for the advice.... I am going to try and save up for this product and hopefully one day.... ill be the next criss angel |
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M.Frymus Loyal user Oakville, Ontario, Canada! 293 Posts |
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Eeww!! The one I build was even better then this! Costed me more to build, but FAR better than that! Actually, to be honest it looks very similar to the Master Prediction. I would never trust someone who I do not know or never heard of. Especially things that seem too good to be true. That is a really cheap cost. Meaning the materials are cheap, and labor = junk. secondly, Eew. Criss Angel.
MICHAEL FRYMUS
Director of Photography WEBSITE: michaelfrymus.com 289.795.4195 Filmming worldwide Email: dop-michaelfrymus@live.com |
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