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Bill Hegbli
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I have searched many of the popular sites and came up with nothing. I am working on Shoot Ogawa Wand Routine and would like to find Magician's Wands in the colors of Red, Blue, and Yellow.

Can anyone point me in the direction to find wands in wood or plastic that are good for this superior 'Flip Stick' routine?
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Not knowing the routine, I'm not sure the difference you're looking for from a regular wand. However, I know the Flip Stick moves can be better facilitated with a hollow wand. If this is the case, a set of multiplying or nesting wands should give you several sizes to try. I think Ickle Pickle makes a multi-colored set. Or, you could cut some tubing from a hardware store.
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Bill Hegbli
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Currently, I am not able to paint and no access to a bench saw. So, I was hoping I could purchase the wands. I do not need exotic woods.

They are just plain ordinary wands. Cannot use the split nesting wand sets. They can be 1/2" in diameter and like 10" to 12" in length.

Found the Multiplying Wands at Daytona Magic and Magic Warehouse, but do not know if they are solid tube wands. If need be, I can always cut up some wooden dowels and put contact paper on them, but having a plastic or wooden wand that was made as a wand would look better.
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I found some Jumbo Pencils in the bookstore with nice decorative stickers around it. You can just pluck off the top rubber portion and saw off the pencil tip. Then tap up the ends with white or silver tape. There you have it! A light weight wooden wand very suitable for Shoot's Flip Stick routines. Smile
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You can make your own out of drum sticks and spray paint.
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Hi wmhegbli,

Boy are you in luck. It took me months to locate these. Go to http://www.paul-howard-pro-magic.co.uk I love these wands. They are very well made in bright colorful plastic. Perfect weight and size for Shoot's routine.

Brad
Bill Hegbli
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Brad, thanks for the sit but it looks like the site is down. I guess he did not sell enough wands and pay his ISP company.

A search brought up this site: http://www.professional-magic.co.uk/magic_wands.html

Thank you very much, just what I was looking for, your the best!

Bill
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Bill,

Glad you found the right wands!
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Bill Hegbli
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I Emailed them using their contact form on the site, no response. I need a 12" wand and not the 14" they sell. Being they make them, I asked if they could make a shorter version. No response.

It hit me why don't I contact Abbott's Magic at http://www.abbottmagic.com they responded to my email in a timely manner, and they will make the the wands for me in wood, they normally make their wand tricks in this length. I ordered a Red, Yellow, and Blue wood wand set. Will let you all know how they are when they arrive.
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I have been working on this routine for several weeks now, and come to a unique realization about Japanese manipulation that is not present in western manipulation performances.

Shoot Ogawa has a section on Theory and Misdirection utilized in the routine. I find it very interesting that pulling a stick out and holding it looks just like that, pulling a stick out, but with a simple pause and look toward the audience, they forget where it came from and looks like it appeared from nowhere.

This I find has never been dealt with in all the manipulation literature on the market. It is a powerful tool and it seems only the Japanese have mastered it. Shoot Ogawa uses this in his Thimble routine as well, it really makes a great difference in make a trick or effect truly wonderful to experience.

I bought a silk production from a Japanese gentleman and he made a point of a gesture when the still was made, this gesture and eye glance, when combined is the strongest misdirection a single performer can create.

I think this such a powerful tool in manipulation a complete DVD should be created on just this subject when performing manipulation magic. I am of course speaking of using manipulation as in creating a magic effect, not in the performance of using manipulation as a demonstration of skill.

I strongly recommend these DVDs even if you do not want to learn the wonderful routines, but watch the use of misdirection and technique, not explained in anywhere else to my knowledge.

The wands Abbott's Magic made for me are very satisfactory for my purpose, but if you want something that looks nice and made of plastic, I found this site that sells the set of wands. http://www.52magic.com/product_613.html I have not ordered them yet so I cannot comment of them. I think the cost of shipping makes these unavailable from this manufacturer.
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Thanks for the tips on the DVD, Bill.
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I talked to Shoot, Shoot said he makes he own wands, he spray painted it and tape the ends to make it look like real wand.
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Hello wmhegbli
You mention a Shoot Ogawa DVD on "Flip Stick" routines.
Can you tell me the name of it and where it can be bought please?
I live in Perth Western Australia.
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On 2009-11-29 19:29, wmhegbli wrote:
I Emailed them using their contact form on the site, no response. I need a 12" wand and not the 14" they sell. Being they make them, I asked if they could make a shorter version. No response.

Brad, thanks for the sit but it looks like the site is down. I guess he did not sell enough wands and pay his ISP company.

A search brought up this site: http://www.professional-magic.co.uk/magic_wands.html

Thank you very much, just what I was looking for, your the best!

Bill



Hi Bill
I have just read this and I am very surprised and disappointed to here that you have had difficulty contacting me by email. I do check my email three or four time a day and always reply within the day.

Most of my business is done through the Internet and it would be foolish of me not pay my ISP.

I cannot recall receiving any email from you so I can only conclude it must have been a clinch in the Internet.

Going back on topic if you have not yet found the wands looking for I am very happy to talk to you about making some to your requirements.
Paul
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Bill Hegbli
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Just found out that Shoot Ogawa had a previousl DVD on Wand Manipulation!

This one is called, "Shoot Ogawa - Stage Magic Lecture - Wand Routine

This earlier DVD has a number of different effects that can be done. Unfortunitely, this DVD is very difficult to obtain.

But to see a preview of the material go here to view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6c-MMjBA......embedded

Enjoy!!
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Hey Bill,

Do you know if the flip stick moves from the videos you posted are on the "Wand routine" DVDs. I really, REALLY like the stuff on those videos you posted and would love to pick up the video that teaches them. I've been looking for something like this for a while. Do you know if Shoot teaches the moves on that DVD in English? I know he is fluent in English but wasn't sure if he was teaching in English.

If you could help me pick up a set of these I'd really appreciate it!

Thanks!
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On 2012-01-06 20:45, pslaughter wrote:
Hey Bill,

Do you know if the flip stick moves from the videos you posted are on the "Wand routine" DVDs. I really, REALLY like the stuff on those videos you posted and would love to pick up the video that teaches them. I've been looking for something like this for a while. Do you know if Shoot teaches the moves on that DVD in English? I know he is fluent in English but wasn't sure if he was teaching in English.

If you could help me pick up a set of these I'd really appreciate it!

Thanks!


The above old DVD is not easily obtained from the Chinese company selling it. It has no English, only Japanese speech. With many of these Japanese videos the Japanese language is not as detailed as English, thus most of the time by just watching the video it can be learned. By the way, I do not have this older video, and would like to get it, but the company selling it requires only payment by Western Union, and that is a huge hassle.

Shoot Ogawa has made a newer want routine DVD here:
http://www.holyshoot.com/magicshop2.htm

Compare them for yourself, I see some material that is on the new DVD.

Here is the routine he is explaining on the newer DVD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4mkP1dfzY
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Hey Bill,

Thanks for the info. I'll be picking this up for sure. I've been looking for something on the Japanese flipstick moves, but wasn't sure where to find it.

I owe you one! :0)
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