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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
I just buffed my CM's to a nice gloss. Is there anything I can safely spray on them to keep them shinny?
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Jake or Don could answer this better than I. However, if you don't use some kind of epoxy, the finish will chip. Epoxy takes a week to cure completely (in most cases), and the surface must be absolutely squeaky clean. You need to be able to isolate the cups from any dust particles while they are drying.
You might get a coating of polyurethane to do the work, but it's not as tough as epoxy. With some of the new regs on solvents, it's difficult to find the right epoxy in a consumer applied finish. Krylon used to make a clear epoxy that I used on a lot of outdoor props, but it seems to have vanished -- like magic. A good coating of carnauba wax or Renaissance Wax will keep the cups shiny, but will need to be replaced now and then. Flitz has a wax component in it which automatically protects metal surfaces from tarnish, at least on a temporary basis. One possibility is that you might be able to get someone who repairs brass instruments (at a music shop) to give the cups a lacquer coat. They may even have an epoxy available.
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
There is a new aqueous based clear coat that is supposed to be fantastic.
As soon as I learned it was $120 a gallon, I ran out of the building and forgot to ask the name of it. For brass instruments, we use a special lacquer that comes in clear or with a gold tint. It is a better finish than what you would find at the hardware store. It comes in a spray can which offers a less than perfect finish. Or, it would be much better if you have access to a small HVLP sprayer or even a good sign painters' airbrush (Paasche). The old horns had a baked finish that is tough to duplicate. The new regulations have thrown everything into chaos for small restoration shops. Check your auto body shop or a musical instrument repair/supply house. Few repair people like to mess with re-lacquering.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I painted my original Brass Bowl for the Benson Bowl routine with a clear plastic spray from a Krylon spray can. That was in 1982, and it still looks great. Grant you, it is not stacked and knocked about, but it is still shiny and does not give your hands that terrible smell that brass gives off as it tarnishes.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
That may have been the old Krylon Acrylic clear coat. That was pretty darn good stuff, even if it wouldn't hold up to the rigors of cups and balls. Krylon has had to pull a lot of their stuff off the market due to various changes in EPA and OSHA regulations.
There is a finish that some of my friends who build banjos use that is a catalyzed acrylic, and it's as tough as nails. It comes in one gallon buckets. I don't remember the name of it. If you can find a clear coat by AKZO, it may be what you need. AKZO makes aircraft paints. I don't mean model paints, I mean the kind they use on 747's, etc.
"The Swatter"
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Donal Chayce Inner circle 1770 Posts |
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On 2009-12-09 12:51, Bill Palmer wrote: That's what I use on a brass bowl on which I forced a patina. IMO, paste wax gives a depth of finish that can't be achieved by any other type of coating, and it exceptionally enhances a patina. I personally don't mind having to reapply it from time to time--there's something about engaging in the upkeep of my props that feeds my magic soul in some way. |
ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
I'm going to go with a wax finish. I don't want to mess up a spray that won't come off.
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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Donnie Buckley V.I.P. Cleveland, Ohio 1123 Posts |
Good choice, ringmaster.
Don't apply anything less than a professional grade clear coating to the cups. You will be happier with the cups in the long run knowing that you can polish them any time you like, and then wax them to keep them glossy longer. Personally, I just use Flitz. It prolongs the shine long enough for me, and it's easy to use. I don't let my cups turn - I like shiny things. Donnie |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2009-12-10 16:19, Donal Chayce wrote: Johnny Ace Palmer worked at Magic Island several times a couple of years after it opened. I would take him around to get chicks. Not the grownup kind that I prefer, but the yellow, fuzzy ones. Every afternoon, before he got ready for his show, he cleaned and polished his cups. It was part of his ritual.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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