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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
While it's certainly at least naive to think that hard work, diligence, and smart decisions (or laziness, carelessness, and stupid decisions) don't play a major role in many people's lives, it’s a fact that the USA child born today is in debt up to his eyeballs before he can think for himself and will be spending his life paying for the carelessness, and stupid decisions his government has made for him before he was born.
Happy birthday to you kid, from uncle Sam and the rest of the gang.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
NOBODY will be debt free once this administration is done.
Whit, I have to agree with you. It is possible to be caught up in circumstances beyond one's own control. It is possible that life can hit people hard enough that even with help they have trouble righting the ship. This is a fact, I have seen it. I also think our government makes provisions for such circumstances. This is also a very good thing. I am of the opinion that our government as it is starting to move in the past decade, does more to hurt these people than to help these people. Spend spend spend, is not going to help anyone. I also am of the opinion that if you want to rise above these circumstances, that this is the best country to do it in. IN GENERAL we control our own destiny. Hard work and smart decisions help along the way. NOBODY always does these things. Heck I certainly did not always do them.
Danny Doyle
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JordanB Special user dallas, tx 626 Posts |
Nobody was "debt free" when the administration started. The administration certainly hasn't helped.
I think the best one can do is worry about his own circumstances. There are always things that can happen beyond our control, but you plan for the best, prepare for the worst. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea that was why I said "past decade" as it has been not all the fault of the current occupant of the White House.
Danny Doyle
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
Danny, it's been going on for a lot longer than the past decade. Just how long, though, depends on who you talk to.
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MagiClyde Special user Columbus, Ohio 871 Posts |
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it’s a fact that the USA child born today is in debt up to his eyeballs before he can think for himself and will be spending his life paying for the carelessness, and stupid decisions his government has made for him before he was born. Ok, maybe now is the time to repeal all those silly child labor laws so that they can get a head start on paying down their share! Sadly, no matter what, this whole debt situation can only get really, really ugly. What happens when the next big financial crisis hits...and it will!
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Reality check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF_X1xhQccQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGoQ3EpDFbM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuiOwp0nFPM&feature=related
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
Sort of related to Tommy's video links above:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/288143 Jim Rogers, Chairman of Rogers Holdings, has once again made a bold prediction and that is the British Pound could quite possibly collapse within the coming weeks. Jim Rogers, co-founder of the Quantum Fund and founder of the Rogers Commodities Index, was quoted in a recent press release that the United Kingdom Pound is on the brink of utter collapse, which could happen within the coming weeks and there is nothing governments can do about it. Rogers, making statements prior to delivering a keynote speech at next month’s Global Trading Day seminar in Westminster, believes the collapse of the Pound could foreshadow a global economic disintegration before the end of the year. The last few months of increases in the markets have been a “false bounce” and occurred due to government interference in the market and throwing everything at it except for the kitchen sink. “But it can’t last. We’ve been applying temporary sticking plasters, not long-term cures. Later this year we’ll see the start of the real recession, with more Lehman-scale disasters and a fallout which won’t stop until the underlying malaise is genuinely cured,” said Rogers. The author of “Hot Commodities” believes the beginning of the collapse of the UK will start with the Pound, adding that the Pound has devalued against all other currencies and is a “basket case,” which will put Great Britain in a bad position when the “shakedown” occurs. “It sounds like a lot of doom and gloom. But it doesn’t have to be. With foreknowledge, experience, advice and skill, even the steepest downward slide can be turned to advantage. Recession can be just as much a source of wealth as growth.”
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
“But, in a bizarre twist, FT Alphaville reported earlier that Rogers has denied all knowledge of these quotes and branded them ‘outrageous’. Citywire has tried to contact Rogers.”
http://www.citywire.co.uk/personal/-/new......D=384682 Imminent Pound Collapse Warning Withdrawn Vince Stanzione apologises for putting words in Jim Rogers’ mouth http://www.pressdispensary.co.uk/release......rawn.php Still I expect it will happen soon.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2010-02-25 13:59, EsnRedshirt wrote: And yet you think we need to spend EVEN MORE! That is what is so frustrating. Lots of government spending is bad, so the solution is naturally 10x the amount of spending?
Danny Doyle
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
Danny, not true. I don't like government spending any more than you do- I just happen to think our government should focus our spending priorities on different areas than you do.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
“Buy when there’s blood in the streets” (Baron Rothschild in 1871)
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2010-02-27 14:39, tommy wrote: More from J-Rog: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2010-0......5618.htm "American investment guru Jim Rogers believes US stocks could be entering into a Japan-style Dark Age with falling values until 2030."
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2010-02-22 21:37, Carrie Sue wrote: Thanks for the tip. I checked it out as you said. Turns out you were wrong: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/......ce-says/ "The GOP proposals Obama has embraced reform the way states handle medical malpractice suits, reduce waste and abuse in the health care system, increase Medicaid reimbursements to doctors and expands health savings accounts."
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
Well. At least the news is good in China.
Defying Global Slump, China Has Labor Shortage: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/27/busine......uan.html And people think nothing of dropping millions of $$$ for luxury condos over there: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/05/busine.......html?hp How long can it last? Opinion is split. Place your bets.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2010-02-28 19:22, EsnRedshirt wrote: I have never seen you claim that a government program except for the military should be cut LOL.
Danny Doyle
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
I don't want to speak for EsnRedshirt, but I'm pretty sure I've seen posts of his that were against corporate welfare.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Heck I was against the bailouts from the first one.
Matter of fact I was so frustrated I named my second dog after Bush. (named her Bailey) One thing you guys who hate corporations seem to forget, is that it is PEOPLE who work for them.
Danny Doyle
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
The system coming in is the old system. C.E.Os of corporations will be the new feudal overlords and we will all belong to the corporation, as serfs did to the man on the hill in his castle. And when it does come I am joining Robin Hood me self..
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
I realized the other day why I was so annoyed with a particular conservative viewpoint that says that if we put financial restrictions on companies, innovation will end:
It assumes the only goal is money. Who seriously thinks Einstein wouldn't have bothered with the Theory of Relativity unless he was getting paid for it? Or that Madame Curie wouldn't have done her work? How many magicians or illusion builders have gotten rich from inventing new illusions? Arguably, privatizing everything is what will stifle innovation. So many drugs on the market these days are the same ones released years ago, with just a molecule tweaked to get a new patent. What company's going to spend millions of dollars on curing a rare disease when it will never profit from the cure?
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