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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13426 Posts 
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I think you can get that thread at a fabric store by the spool.
And why has this thread been moved to the "silk" section?? Because of the word "loop" or the word "ball"?
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Donal Chayce Inner circle 1770 Posts
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On 2010-02-11 19:24, Frank Starsini wrote: I suspect it's because the mods have confused a loop ball with a hank ball (some hank balls also have loops on them). |
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David Todd Inner circle 2856 Posts
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On 2010-01-22 17:56, Orange Eric wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbGAep93RNA |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22791 Posts
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On 2010-02-07 09:53, wbzwolinski wrote: The Thread is called 'Basting Thread', it is used by clothing tailors to hand stitch parts of clothing when making tailored cloths like suits for men. The Basing Thread in the USA is just to strong. It is made by the popular 'Coats & Clark, Inc.' Company. As stated by Frank, most all fabric stores carry this brand. Mine has the name 'Brook's Basting Thread' on the covering wrapper. For the best Basing Thread, you have to get it from England and Europe. There thread is a bit thicker and weaker. Breaks very easily. All the spools I have the visiting magicians removed the labels, so I cannot give any brand information, unfortunately. |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24330 Posts
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Wicking yarn works well in the Gypsy Thread. It's larger in diameter than regular basting thread, but breaks just as easily.
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magic8161 Regular user 133 Posts
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I remember I had fish line on mine years ago.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts
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On 2012-10-17 19:10, magic8161 wrote: ??? Oh! On the loop ball! Yeah, that's usually the stuff they use. 
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Mark Ross Loyal user Batavia, NY 236 Posts
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I bought a loop ball from Cellini at a lecture and he used a pretty thick monofilement fishing line.
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magic8161 Regular user 133 Posts
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Not sure how to make one. anyone make there own?
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts
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I always thought you could do the same thing with a palm-o-ball.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts
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No, Ian...The Palmo is an oval Dye Tube made by Rice. It has no monofilament attached.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts
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As far as the "loop ball" being used for silks, isn't that called a Stilwell Ball? Or am I mistaken?
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Mark Ross Loyal user Batavia, NY 236 Posts
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The ball used for silk work is a hank ball, that Stilwell developed a full routine around in the early 1900's. I actually found a copy of his booklet in very good condition. Hugard summarizes the Stillwell routine in the book "Silken Sorcery". The hank ball can be found most commonly today without a loop, and my opinion is that the loop does not add much to the ball's usefulness.
Duane Lalin has a DVD on the hank ball that is quite good. Mark |
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1698 Posts
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"Https://reelmagicmagazine.vids.io/videos......formance".
This is one of Slydini's routines from Slydini Encores (book) and performed by one of Slydini's top students: Cellini! Slydini had a second routine called Capricious Cornucopia, from the same book... which used a piece of paper rolled into a cone, for a continuous production and vanish of the ball. In my opinion, the routine using the paper is more successful in that it looks less like 'hand washing'. When I was young, I practiced these moves exactly as shown in this video, but ultimately decided that it didn't look totally convincing. |
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David Todd Inner circle 2856 Posts
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On Nov 4, 2025, JNeal wrote: I agree that the hand washing moves detract from it. I much prefer Cellini's handling of the ball with a hat, which is taught on his video "Magic That Can Be Performed Anywhere" https://youtu.be/_c81rxaPfWg |
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FrankFindley Inner circle 1170 Posts
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This may be the most successful thread necromancy I have ever seen!
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hugmagic Inner circle 7752 Posts
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I the Hank ball or the Stillwell ball as properly called is still very deceptive if used properly. Study the actual Stillwell routine. I had a custom who was totally blind but learned the Stillwell act by the notes and it was beautiful and a fully.
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