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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts |
On the subject of DVD presentation:
If Mr Wilson really is as dry on DVD as some would suggest, surely that combines the best of books with the best of DVDs! One of the major benefits of books is the way your creative mind will help with the presentation, rather than the danger of being a clone of the performer. DVD allow visual learning, rewind & pause... So here you get the best of both worlds! Your presentation, RPWs routines. Respect to all! Charlie |
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QwertyHero New user 27 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 11:59, tntjr wrote: I don't have these but I have his Royal Road set and it's fair to say his performances are different. He rarely smiles at all and there's a lot of silence when performing, I can see why people might not like him. When he asks for someone to cut, shuffle or write something, it's silence until the deed is done, he doesn't say stuff like "That's great, yeah, you're doing fine" or any other filler, he just sits silently staring at them, total deadpan look. There's one part on the first DVD where he asks a lad to cut the pack and he takes his time about it while Paul just stares at the cards, the lad then goes back to cut again but he's slow, Paul is still staring. You don't know if he's just waiting or giving a sarcastic look because the lad is taking his time about it, finally a girl next to him just bursts out laughing then Paul snatches the cards back and says 'Just give me them here' . I don't think it was supposed to be funny at first, I think he was just genuinely waiting for him to cut the cards. I can see why people might think him arrogant. He's straight to the point and explains well in Royal Road, I like straight to the point in tricks though, less filler, so his style is pretty enjoying to me. |
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tntjr Elite user 483 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 14:32, QwertyHero wrote: Those awkward silences are rampant in the Extreme Possibilities series. Here's a link to the L&L promo on youtube. The tricks are good, but ....judge for yourselves. Keep in mind these are highlights intended to sell this set. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQC-KTT1nNI |
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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 06:48, tntjr wrote: What I meant was that nobody would stay up late stressing about it if you altered the presentation to your own needs.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
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Andrew Morse Regular user Corvallis, OR 157 Posts |
I watched the video trailer. He didn't seem arrogant to me. Maybe the humor is a little dry, but not in a bad way. This is just my opinion based on that short clip.
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 17:14, olemikkelsen wrote: I don't think tntjr was watching the same clip he posted the link to. I was wondering where the problem was as well. It certainly doesn't show in that clip. I know some don't care for Paul's style etc... We can assume tntjr and D.J. are two of those. however tntjr's attempt at trying to show us why he doesn't like R. Paul Wilson is not working out too well for him. |
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Double J Veteran user 331 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 13:24, Lawrence O wrote: HAHAHAHAHAH!!! That's funny Lawrence. Sorry, but you are wrong. Those people are hand picked and on their best behavior. I guess it also just randomly happens that the best looking are always in the front. Come on! TNTjr- Thank you for posting that video. It shows perfectly what I was talking about in the beginning. Listen to what he says. Would you be surprised if I could do this. Would you be surprised if I could do that. Get on with it already, we know your full of yourself. It's a good thing ole' Frank has a sense of humor on the video because he breaks the awkward silence. Andrew there is no humor. We must be looking at two totally different people with the same name. The one I'm looking at seems like he could care less about everything and everybody around him. whoa! Down boy. |
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
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When he asks for someone to cut, shuffle or write something, it's silence until the deed is done, he doesn't say stuff like "That's great, yeah, you're doing fine" or any other filler, he just sits silently staring at them, total deadpan look. Personally I don't care for the performer that can't handle any break in the action! One that feels the need to fill all dead air with silly or useless patter! When asking someone to cut the cards I really doubt most feel a true sense of worth by being congratulated for cutting the deck! "Sir or ma'am, would you please cut the deck somewhere near the middle...........Thank you"! Guys like Malone can get away with "Oh wow, that's great, no one's ever done it better" but most come off somewhere between nervous and overbearing to me! I met Paul a couple years ago at a mini convention at Hocus Pocus and found him to be both pleasant and engaging! As for being a bit glib or dry..... well that's my general persona so it's fine by me! The fact of the matter is, he IS one hell of a talented performer and I believe a lot can be learned by studying his methods and style..... Or not! Just my personal opinion, MMc |
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wsduncan Inner circle Seattle, WA 3619 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 05:27, Peo Olsson wrote: Hense the "United" in United Kingdom... |
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Cain Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 1550 Posts |
I don't see arrogance in that clip either, but I am reminded how much I loathe Scotty. One day I'll confront him...
Cain: "I hate you Soctty." Scotty: "No way!"
Ellusionst discussing the Arcane Playing cards: "Michaelangelo took four years to create the Sistine Chapel masterpiece... these took five."
Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes: "You know Einstein got bad grades as a kid? Well, mine are even worse!" |
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wsduncan Inner circle Seattle, WA 3619 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 18:14, Double J wrote: Sorry, but you are wrong about that. There's nothing random about who sits up front but looks aren't the number one criteria by any means. You think "Front Row Frank" is the best looking? Or Scotty? Maybe you haven't seen that many L&L videos, but believe me, the folks in the front row are picked for how comfortable they are in front of a camera. You need folks who aren't worrying how they look all the time and are paying attention to the performer. I'm sure Frank got put up front, in the early days, because of his great laugh. |
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
Bill,
Who's the black guy in so many L&L's that always looks so amazed? David? His expressions are priceless! MMc |
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Double J Veteran user 331 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 19:53, wsduncan wrote: Sorry, Your wrong. Scotty works for L&L and who knows how many others. Besides, I wasn't talking about them, I was talking about the ladies front and center. If you missed them and their beauty you should put your glasses back on. Interesting how you could pick out Frank and Scotty amongst so many. Are you smitten? |
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tntjr Elite user 483 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 18:06, RS1963 wrote: Am I the only one who sees the discomfort in the audience with the clever line: "This is a very expensive magic wand. It's a stick." ??? They are trying to be polite. That's why they are there. Agreed that the arrogance really doesn't come through on the clip. |
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sanjaya Regular user 140 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 20:48, Double J wrote: I like the ladies better than Scotty or David. |
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sanjaya Regular user 140 Posts |
I REALLY like the ladies.
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Double J Veteran user 331 Posts |
[quote]On 2010-01-25 18:27, MickeyPainless wrote:
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No body is questioning his personal being, in fact He's probably a fine person. Talented Performer, ehhhh, I think not. At least it doesn't show in this dvd series. As you say, I studied his style and I have learned what not to do. So I pick...... NOT! |
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Chamberlain Special user 629 Posts |
I did enjoy the dvds, though at some times had to watch them in 2x speed to hurry things up.
He probably isn't performing as much now since he stars in the real hustle, and so has lost some of his performing persona. Watch his restaurant act video to see a slightly more lively version of Paul. |
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Double J Veteran user 331 Posts |
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On 2010-01-25 19:48, Cain wrote: Now that's funny! |
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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
I suppose I'm somewhat biased, as I had the chance to meet and briefly talk cards with R Paul Wilson on one occasion in Blackpool. His approach to magic and performance, along with Gary Middleton's, has been extremely influential on me. There's an understated element of play, rather like an offer being made in Improv Theater, that I just don't think the L&L crowd knew was there. It's like a game of deadpan chicken, and in close-up magic, with the right counterpart, it can be very entertaining.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
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