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Hart Keene
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I couldn't pull it up either bud...
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Donald Dunphy
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Carducci -

Your truly magic site didn't load up the first time on IE for me. I had to hit refresh for it to work.

Here's a handy site to double-check whether sites are really working or not:

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

- Donald
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Majestic12
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On 2010-01-25 17:48, Donald Dunphy wrote:
Carducci -

Your truly magic site didn't load up the first time on IE for me. I had to hit refresh for it to work.

Here's a handy site to double-check whether sites are really working or not:

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

- Donald

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LoL Donald, that site is down for me.
Donald Dunphy
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Yah, I noticed that, too. LOL!

When it is running, it's handy!

- Donald
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Carducci
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I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I appreciate the feedback.

Apparently the DNS changes I made away from Godaddy have not fully propagated.
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Carducci site works for me the first time.
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MikeClay
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Yeah.. I did a few scans.. it was dns..

the reason to use SEHost is not for the IP addresses but the adresses on different c-classes
meaning it doesn't show your sites on the same server at the same location..

example of use..

say you have 5 websites and you link back and forth from them.. using proper anchor text this can help with your seo rankings..

IF they are on the same IP Range (or same server) the value of the link is diminished and you need to generate 5 times the links and unique content to get the same weight as 1 inbound link from a site on a different Range..

also keep in mind google has permanate link memory
they know if a site has shared a server with another site.. so moving them will not help..
Carducci
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On 2010-01-26 12:22, MikeClay wrote:
IF they are on the same IP Range (or same server) the value of the link is diminished and you need to generate 5 times the links and unique content to get the same weight as 1 inbound link from a site on a different Range..


There is some debate in the SEO community about whether or not that's a myth. In an interview, Craig Silverstein, Google's Director of Technology, was asked

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"Why in this day and age does google continue to penalize sites that are virtual hosted? With ip addresses becoming harder to get/justify every day why does google discount the relevance of links that don't come from a unique ip address."


His response was:
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"Actually, Google handles virtually hosted domains and their links just the same as domains on unique IP addresses. If your ISP does virtual hosting correctly, you'll never see a difference between the two cases. We do see a small percentage of ISPs every month that misconfigure their virtual hosting, which might account for this persistent misperception-thanks for giving me the chance to dispel a myth!"


I'll have to look around for a definitive answer on the subject - so much is hearsay and conjecture on SEO forums.
MikeClay
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Ehhh..

not sure how much you can trust them when they talk about the algorithm and how it works..

but yeah.. 1 guy I know who tests ALL the time.. and had over 400 domains in his test says there is a difference but it's not enough to worry about

another guy I know says the difference is huge when it comes to building page rank to have a promotion system..

I'm about half way through a 200 site test on this..
what I see early on is the different C-Class do give more weight, but not so much that a little more work elsewhere wouldnt compensate for the shared hosting..

if your interested I will post results after I am done with the testing
John T. Sheets
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There's some good info here. Thanks guys!
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On 2010-01-24 19:07, trickychaz wrote:
No, nothing is new, but they work, and I have used them successfully. You should never reinvent the wheel in marketing...


Just a really quick comment on this one section of your post. Actually, you should ALWAYS be reinventing the wheel in marketing. Time-tested methods like cold-calling will never die, but promotional strategies should always be changing with the changes in your target demographic and how they prefer to be approached.
Jeff Travilla - Author of "The Extractor." I work in advertising and marketing now. If you are a professional worker and need marketing help, feel free to contact my company. JCM Media Group.
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On 2010-01-28 14:10, pearljamjeff wrote:
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On 2010-01-24 19:07, trickychaz wrote:
No, nothing is new, but they work, and I have used them successfully. You should never reinvent the wheel in marketing...


Just a really quick comment on this one section of your post. Actually, you should ALWAYS be reinventing the wheel in marketing. Time-tested methods like cold-calling will never die, but promotional strategies should always be changing with the changes in your target demographic and how they prefer to be approached.


got a point! The strategies that you choose to reach your target customers should be unlike anything else that hits their desk, inbox etc...is this what you are referring to?
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Precisely. Preferences change all the time. Media preferences, how people prefer to be approached, what types of message they are open to, etc... These things are always changing.
Jeff Travilla - Author of "The Extractor." I work in advertising and marketing now. If you are a professional worker and need marketing help, feel free to contact my company. JCM Media Group.
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