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Arteco New user 71 Posts |
Hi Everyone,
Even though I am fairly new on the Café, I am thrilled to annonce the upcoming release of Signed Card Thru Window by Jean-Pierre Vallarino. http://www.artecoproductions.com/signed-......ino.html Most of Jean-Pierre Vallarino's effects are being translated in English, and many more are about to be released within the next few month. I know how controversial this first release could be, because of the similarity with another great product, but I hope that you will be able to make the difference between this version, and the other existing one. This product is different enough, and the differences are significant enough to have this version being released. Both version have their pros and cons as of the performing conditions and set up. Both are great, I am not here to tell you that this one is better than the other one, but to tell you that, despite the similarities, this one is a very different one. The strengh of this effect is that it can be performed without any help or any assistant, without insane prior set-up, with a regular deck of Bicycle playing card, and you do not even have to force a card. Technically, if you know how cut the deck in half by doing a slip cut, you can perform this effect... Signed Card Thru Window is schedule to be released for the Blackpool convention, so feel free to come by the booth for a live performance of the trick. Questions or comments are welcome |
ReviewerMaster Veteran user 307 Posts |
Looks interesting. Remind me of the effect from David Stone. Can the card to examined right away?
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Mysterious Mike Loyal user Chicago 258 Posts |
This does seem pretty interesting. I really like how the spectator can remove the card from the window.
The performance is what really makes it all worth while.
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puffinmonkey Elite user Seattle 437 Posts |
Honestly, the effect accomplish's pretty much the same as David Stone's effect "Window". There are threads over the controversy of the idea. All I can say is that both effects are astounding. Looking forward to pick this up
-Alex |
Vorezo Loyal user 248 Posts |
Does the cloth have to be used? that's the only drawback I see with this one.
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jtmorris Regular user Canada 158 Posts |
Nice effect, however, not a card through window really. A color change trough window, yes, but not card through window.
Perhaps on some abstract level it could be called a card through window. I think a proper title will help with sales, as people will not come to it with expectations attached. If you call it what it is, then you will sell it for what it is. You may lose sales because there is no card going though a window, and people may get hung up on that. But the effect is nice. justin
"Looks like a camera trick!" "I had to watch it 5 times before I...still didn't figure it out" - COINTUM-LEAP
Unbelievable, visual, simple, and motivated mix of cards and coins. COINTUM-LEAP |
rockthemike Special user Seattle 695 Posts |
Agreed. I would not call this a card through window.
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
I wouldn't call David Stone's a card through window either.
To be fair the same can be said for every other method besides having a confederate helping you..
Douglas Lippert
Former I.B.M. Ring #8 Secretary |
jtmorris Regular user Canada 158 Posts |
At least with David's you see the card on your side of the window right before.
There are some that at least look like it goes through the window. This doesn't really even give that impression. Often I hear spectators say "hey I saw David Blaine throw a deck of cards at a window and his card went through and stuck on the other side!" They won't be saying that about this one. Twey will be saying something more like "and the card changed behind the glass!" (which btw, is still awesome) j
"Looks like a camera trick!" "I had to watch it 5 times before I...still didn't figure it out" - COINTUM-LEAP
Unbelievable, visual, simple, and motivated mix of cards and coins. COINTUM-LEAP |
olaf911 Regular user Germany 104 Posts |
As you are requesting for comments:
Maybe you should consider making a new video. Watched this one twice, and I am very confident about the method and props involved. I cannot write more here because of potential trick exposure, but if you are interested in my guess please feel free to shoot me some pm. Olaf Edit: I am not interested in your confirmation or denial of my guess. Don't want to fish for your method, but when I guess right, others will do too. |
Arteco New user 71 Posts |
Hi Everybody,
Thank you all for the feedback, it is highly appreciated. Olaf, I am willing to discuss the method with you on pm, of course. You know, after performing magic for 20 years, I also understand 90 % of the tricks performed after seeing them once or twice on video. However, in this specific case, out of the 3 gimmicks used to perform Signed card Thru Window, none of them are flashing on the video PS : Yes, the card is examinable right away, there's nothing to see anywhere, not even on the floor... |
OliverI New user 7 Posts |
Being a fan of David Stones card change through window effect I love the idea of the spectator being able to remove the card.
With regards to 'clean-up' can I ask whether the effect can be done using a sash window which is closed after the card has been secured on the other side of the window? |
Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
Quote:
On 2010-02-06 06:36, OliverI wrote: Yes (after seeing the demo video), I feel it is possible. However . . . Quote:
On 2010-02-06 04:47, Arteco wrote: . . . as I visualize the effect . . . on the other side of the closed window, remnants can be seen lying on the floor.
MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET there is no MAGIC.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke. |
ReviewerMaster Veteran user 307 Posts |
LOL. The floor one is a proper suspect!
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
A Color Change Under Glass... not a bad thing.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Arteco New user 71 Posts |
Hi,
Sash window : I would say no. However, if you have sliding windows, or sliding doors, that would be perfect. When you end up, you are clean. Nothing to hide anywhere, not on the floor either on both side of the window. There is nothing to hide, and the spectator can pick up the card instantly, by himself. Hope this answers your question ? |
Arteco New user 71 Posts |
PS : New live video performance coming soon
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Saw this live at Blackpool, this and meteors by Juan Mayoral were head and shoulders above everything else there. This looks so magical and I even took my signed card from the glass myself. Outstanding piece of kit easy to do only limitations is finding a window that suits , so probably will never use it as much as one would like. End totally clean and a free choice of card. Very well thought out and a big improvement on the David Stone effect IMO .
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Stephane Jardonnet Regular user since 2004 and already 147 Posts |
David Stone came to visit me last year in Sacramento, while showning me a new trick from Michael Chatelain and presenting it to Murphy's Magic and Ellusionnist. Despite the fact that I was able to find out how the trick was working, I liked the idea and think it was very original. The trick was finally an exclusive from Ellusionnist called WINDOW. Great job and good for them !
In January 2010, Arteco asked me to help him translate Vallarino's version of the card thru window. I first refused because of the controversy between the trick from my friends Mickael Chatelain and David Stone, however, they sent me a sample. After looking at the sample, I was able to sincerely, and honestly say that the trick from Michael, and the trick from Jean-Pierre, despite similarity in the effect, ARE two different tricks. I therefore accepted to take the translation job, under the condition that the name must not look similar to Window, and that original credit must be given for the effect to Mickael Chatelain. Then, I will accept to take the heat if needed. Mickael Chatelain has released a great trick called Window. Jean-Pierre Vallarino has released another version of the effect, called Signed card Thru Window. Both have their pros and cons: Window's pros : - Can be performed to any window - The most remote the access of the window, the more impossible it looks - Almost self-working ( Just need to know how to force a card ) - Do not need a silk to cover the action - Performed and teached by David Stone Window's cons : - Cannot be given for examination - Cannot perform twice in front of the same audience ( Unless the same card shows up over and over ) - You can flash if you don't manage your angles Signed Card Thru Window's pros : - Any card can be used - The spectator go pick the card himself behind the window - Effect can be repeated as many times as you want - Nearly self working ( Don't even need to know how to force a card ) - Angle's free Signed Card Thru Window's cons : - Cannot be performed to any kind of window - Harder to perform than WINDOW from Chatelain - Definitely needs a cover ( Cloth or Silk ) to perform That being said, I believe both effect are great for different reasons, and I also believe that this small talk should end. Vallarino's version is not an improvement, it is just another version, using different gimmick in order to have the spectator able to pick the card out of the window. |
dorval New user 22 Posts |
Great words !
Here is a great clip. Obviously talks for itself. And by the way Vallarino released that trick in Europe under the name WindowPro if that's what you call being inspired ... http://fr.video.yahoo.com/watch/7038952/18309172 |
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