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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
I wasn't too sure where this post should go but I figured this section made the most sense.
So I'm in my (very slack) art class at school. One day in my table group of some close friends I've known forever I end up performing chicago opener on some lazy afternoon. (I've never really performed all that much at school before) It worked great. Next class: I've been moved to a table group of me, my best friend, and four girls. And by the way, these aren't just any girls, THESE are the select few of the best looking girls in all of grade 9. I happen to sit beside the one I like the most (fist pump). What must have happened is one of the girls must have seen the chicago opener the class back, and out of the blue she asks me to do it again. OK, this is my one chance Michael, just don't blow it. Luckily it went perfect. Next class, a forcing pack trick (card to impossible location), again it was great (deck switch went un-noticed). Class after: performed WOW, perfect. Class after: MacDonald's Aces, perfect. Class after: prepared some simple Blaine style card switches in the hand. So the girl who sits beside me had to leave for the dentist in the middle of class, and while she was leaving she asked me to do a quick trick for her. I did, it worked great, and I've never felt happier. Magic had been working for me in ways it never had before. Throughout the week they've (the girls) talked about me in french, science etc. about my card superpowers. I'm all set to go with an Anniversary Waltz-like trick next art class when the unexpected happens. No one asks me to perform. I know what your thinking, just say "Hey guys I brought a card trick" But 1: I'm shy 2: and more importantly, shouldn't there be a reason for them not asking? Heartbroken my girl on my left hasn't said anything, I wait till next class. Nothing. It's like I never performed ever, it is absolutely baffling. And now cutting to the chase I don't know what to do. Performing made me feel on top of the world, but it's hard to ask them if I can do some magic when we're dealing with the select girls, plus the fact I have that nagging feeling they don't want to watch it anymore. My only goal is to someday perform again, and I figure I'd go to the god-like Magic Café forums for wisdom. Thanks for your time l |
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rockthemike Special user Seattle 695 Posts |
Put a deck of cards and case on the table. They'll ask eventually.
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
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On 2010-02-16 22:18, rockthemike wrote: |
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Bill Thompson Elite user Mississippi 422 Posts |
Believe it or not people just don't want to see magic every day. Keep a deck of cards handy on you so you can do a trick or two when asked.
Whatever you do, don't go around begging people if you can show them something. It makes you look like a geek.
"To let understanding stop at what cannot be understood is a high attainment.
Those who cannot do it will be destroyed on the lathe of heaven." - Chuang Tse |
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JCheng Veteran user 313 Posts |
Your magic might be good, but remember that not everyone is thinking about magic EVERYDAY. I'm sure if your magic is good enough, you can remember them by putting your deck out and eventually they will ask you to do some magic as Mike said. Or you can simply ask them is they want to see a trick.
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
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On 2010-02-17 09:33, misterbill wrote: Ya, I'm trying to avoid this in particular. Luckily yesterday everyone was bored in art and a girl asked: "Can you do a card trick?" Yes, yes I can. So you know, I'll keep a pack in my backpack, be ready for anything at all times. |
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jake.o Regular user 111 Posts |
You need to leave them wanting more, its better to just show them one or two tricks in a day and have them wanting more rather than porform everything to them in the same day and leave them thinking they have seen every thing. Just remember that less is more and you will be fine.
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Metatron Elite user Port Orchard, Washington 436 Posts |
Hi Mike Ross,
First I'm glad people are enjoying your magic. You seem to be performing your effects well, and are enjoying your unique status of Magician. Having the attention of your peers, especially the hot girls can be an addictive thing. But by continually performing you actually lose some of the uniqueness. At some point you run the risk of coming across as an Attention Hog. Keep them wanting more. It's OK to be prepared for the times you are asked to perform, but I suggest you limit yourself to Once maybe Twice a week of being the center of attention, or perhaps just at lunch break. The next point, since you have already Broke the Ice with certain girls that you seem to be interested in. Use that to approach them, outside of performing. You've basically been given permission to talk/approach them at will. Find out what they are interested in, and ask about that subject. Let them be the center of your attention. Say Hi, every time you see them. Show them that you are interested in what they do too. All sort of doors will open for you! Good luck, Metatron |
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
You burnt through your material too quickly. This is very common mistake, I think we've all made it. Spread it out ... one trick per week. It's not a drag race, it's a marathon ... be in it for the long haul.
-JoeJoe
Amazing JoeJoe on YouTube[url=https://www.youtube.com/user/AmazingJoeJoe]
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Avocat Elite user 446 Posts |
Hey Mike,
What have you learned about the girl you like, or about any of the best-looking girls whose attention you cornered for that one wonderful week? That's the next step. Not doing more magic tricks. Ask them about them. Maybe start by asking the close friend of the one-you-like what she liked about the trick, then move from that to something about her that she likes. In other words, move off the magic subject already. It maybe too late for this - sorry I didn't spot it sooner. Bottom line: you opened the door. That's all magic can ever do for you, socially. As for when you perform again, let me throw in with the rest of the posters who say that you NEVER offer to show them anything more. Wait 'til they ask. Hope this helps, Jim Kawashima |
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
Hey Mike,
Like Max Malini would say, "wait a week!" Try to join the football team. It will really help you out with the girls. But, keep your nose in the books as well!
Douglas Lippert
Former I.B.M. Ring #8 Secretary |
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Avocat Elite user 446 Posts |
Forgot to mention: you approach a friend of the one-you-like because there'll be less pressure on you that way. Besides, you're going to need her friends' approval regardless, so you might as well get it out of the way at the outset.
Also forgot to mention: too many magic tricks, especially with cards, can make you look geeky. It's a risk we all run (Timothy Wenk has published long essays on this topic). You might want to add something more to your arsenal, like palmistry (for which there are numerous free online resources). Jim K. |
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
Thanks for all the advice guys,
don't worry I'm not a nerd, so I try to keep magic as cool as possible. I'm taking all your advice and it's working out good. Now, as learned from Two and a Half Men: always talk about the women, don't talk about anything but her. Priceless advice. I know her a lot better now and magic has really helped me do that. Also to clear the air, I have more material left (all variety), and yes, I am on the football team. |
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MHamel New user New Hampshire 71 Posts |
A lot of being able to perform without begging people to watch is "planting the seed" in peoples brain. once they know you do magic and see you perform a couple effects you go from someone who knows a couple tricks, to a magician. Always stop at a point when people will want more...
This not only leaves them wanting more, but it also ensures you don't burn through your material to fast. It takes some playing with to master this, but once you build a reputation for GOOD magic. People will start asking you to perform more and more. This is not a instant thing but just like all things, if executed right will pay off in the end. Best Wishes, - Marc Hamel |
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Erdnase27 Inner circle 2505 Posts |
Lol you really need some hints on dating girls, no offense
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J.G. the magnificent Special user Griffith Indiana 886 Posts |
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On 2010-03-04 17:05, JoeJoe wrote: I burn't byself out too. In high school half the kids didn't ask because they knew I had. The other half always asked until I did the same with them. Then they all said I sucked. I am doing things different at work and church.
Jeremy Gates
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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
Agree on most opinions here. I too once performed too many tricks in just one week. So now I only do it occasionally. People, some of them, could get bored easily by just watching tricks.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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griffindance Regular user 145 Posts |
Performances (formal or casual) always work better when the spectator wants to see something. Ask any non-busking professional about the "burn" to perform when gigs arent coming in (After christmas/End-of-Year season is over maybe)! When table hopping I talk to the people and ask IF they want a trick. If not then I move on.
At whatever level your performance, learn what your moment is. don't push if its not right! "Mucha Merde" for the future. Griffin |
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Flyswatter Veteran user 370 Posts |
Advices that I can give:
1. Less is more, makes them want more. 2. Don't give in when they ask for a trick every time, make THEM BEG for it. 3. Don't use magic to create attraction from the ladies, use them wisely to AMPLIFY it. But your first step should be to create attraction, which shouldn't be magic. Guess what, humor works. 4. Do not, I repeat, do not take advices from a TV show, especially Two and a Half Men, I'm sorry! 5. Do not depend on magic tricks if you want to get girls/a girl. But I guess you can put in a magical personality that will get you girls talk about in science, math, social science, gym class throughout the year. It's just a quick reply, if you want detailed answers, send me a PM. |
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
Great advice here about spacing out the tricks and keeping them wanting more.
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