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On 2010-02-24 17:04, stoneunhinged wrote:
On topic, the same questions exist about Kennedy. We *know* he could do a beautiful center, but around here there have been many fights about just how useful a center deal could/can actually be; the doubters are logically led to conclude that Kennedy didn't really use it much, either.


As usual, everything is about context when we talk about card cheating. But let's be honest, when you see how much you've got to bend the card for Kennedy's center deal, you should play cards with blind people or heavy drunkers if you want no one spotting that something weird is going on...
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Nicholas: Check out Jim Thompson (The Grifters) as well as the classics by Damon Runyon

AMcD: I totally get your meaning. According to the book I get the impression a lot of the folks he was playing with were drunk businessmen on a stopover from a long train ride. Its also apparent most people at the table were in collusion. I imagine he could get away with a lot under those circumstances.
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I hear Jim Swain writes cheating novels, or one.
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Thanks for the grifters tip.

I've read swains funny money which, while accurate, wasn't much of a book.
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On 2010-03-05 18:32, Nicholas J. Johnson wrote:
Any suggestions for good fictional books on similar subjects? I'm yet to read a really good card cheating novel.


Gamblers Rose by G.W. Hawkes is a novel about a family of cardsharps in hawaii 1971. Quite a page turner.
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Richard Turner has his novel Re-Deal..
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Gambler's Rose is a great book. It didn't feel like a book about cards but rather about family. I just read the synposis of Re-Deal on Amazon. Looks wonderfully trashy!
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On 2010-03-07 16:41, ein_doppelganger wrote:
Richard Turner has his novel Re-Deal..


I had forgotten about this wonderful book. Very well done by Mr. Turner.
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On 2010-02-24 17:04, stoneunhinged wrote:
There are a few threads here about other projects he's got on the burner.


His latest is just coming off the burner, being served up right now: Igniting the Imagination
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On 2010-03-06 00:17, Nicholas J. Johnson wrote:
Thanks for the grifters tip.

I've read swains funny money which, while accurate, wasn't much of a book.


Re-reading this, I realised I was being pretty harsh. It's actually a fun read with lots of nice stories about mini-swindles scattered throughout the plot. It's not great literature but it's a great airport crime fiction.
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I will check his stuff out - I found a few titles that looked suitably entertaining.

It goes without saying that seeking out classic pulp novels is fun too if you are looking for cons in fiction.
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I just finished Phantoms of the Card Table. What an interesting picture thay paint of Vernon. I know the book isn't really about him and the impression is colored by Scott's experience of the man.

I imagine Vernon was annoyed since it sounded like quite a frustrating situation to be in. Here this guy is touted as your better and you don't get to see him work or verify it yourself.

Anyway, great book! I'm on to George Devol now.
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I found the beginning and end of Phantoms really fantastic. However, I got bored in the middle by the squabbles and letters between the magic elite as they fought for status and to be the ultimate keeper of secrets. Reminded me of too many threads on this forum and too many magic clubs.

I might join you ein_dopperganger and re-read Devol....
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