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pegasus
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Good for you. I didn't realise just how great you were, please accept my apologies.
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On 2010-02-28 15:24, aukt wrote:
But given that you're not a member of the pea and haven't been to armando's las Vegas work shop - you don't know them.


What's "the pea"?
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On 2010-02-28 15:31, pegasus wrote:
Good for you. I didn't realise just how great you were, please accept my apologies.


I forgive you. Apology accepted.
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On 2010-02-28 18:41, Douglas Lippert wrote:
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On 2010-02-28 15:24, aukt wrote:
But given that you're not a member of the pea and haven't been to armando's las Vegas work shop - you don't know them.


What's "the pea"?



pea = Psychic Entertainers Association
Larry Davidson
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I've used their bathroom, the pea can.
Robert M
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On 2010-02-28 13:02, aukt wrote:
Yes I have.

Balls, my boy!


I happen to know that Pegasus has served in Afghanistan, so I do think he has the "balls".

Robert
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I talked with Chris about his deck being totally BICYCLE cards, made by the U.S. Playing Card Co. He says they are 100% made by U.S. Playing Cards. His word is good enough for me. I have two of his decks and they are first class.
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Denny and Lee in Baltimore just got quite a few of these in. They are on normal Bicycle stock, red backs only.
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Thanks Robert, appreciated, although it would take more balls than most to let any of my specs shuffle one of these decks. Lol.

I have been in contact with Curtis Martin, son of Neil Martin Lester, and he is kindly selling me a couple of his late Fathers decks which I know are top notch.
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I bought this one at blackpool but have used the monte christo before.
sure, it is possible to let it been shuffle by a spec. you have to control the position of the cards. (before the shuffle begins)
then you have to control the eyes of the spectator.
even a face down overhand shuffle is possible.. palm 2 normal cards.. add them and you are done..

"please do not look at the cards.. the order has to be total randomly.. you can't know where which card is found in the deck and I don't know.. right?" "right!"

all the best and give it a test
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This is a great deck, but I think it best for more formal stand up performances that involve few if any other effects using cards. If you are a close up card performer, employing several effects in which spectators take cards, shuffle, etc., then the particular procedure required by this deck might appear a bit contrived and limiting. Used a standalone effect, however, this is powerful stuff.
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Having a spectator shuffle this deck is a risk unless you have watched them shuffle another deck for another trick to see how they do it. There is also a thin line between having 'balls' and being stupid and blowing the effect. Pegasus I tend to agree with you this is not a deck to be letting the spec handle.
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Nobody has to take the risk.. I do not recommend this to everybody..
just said it is possible to do.. tennispro you have just added another nice tipp for doing such things!

"spectator observation"
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This is indeed the "Monte Cristo" deck. I have had one (in bicycle backs from Neil Lester)for quite some time, and it never fails to get strong reactions.

The cost of this deck is very reasonable and I predict that anyone who gets this product will be quite satisfied.


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On 2010-02-27 01:34, Douglas Lippert wrote:
From the trick description in Magic Magazine, you place a card in an envelope and mail it to your spectator.

The day of the performance you spread the cards face up and they select one. The card in the envelope has a different colored back but both the faces both match. (let's say 3 of spades).

Anyway, this is not ACAAN, it's a prediction.

Is there a second routine I'm missing?


Your are right. That routine is not ACAAN, but with this deck you can shuffle, show the cards to be randomly distibuted and all different, have a spectator touch ANY card from a face down spread, show that card and remember it. (This is now the the card the spectator is THINKING OF)

The card is then returned the deck and the deck can be cut and shuffled as much as desired. The spectator names a number (1 - 52) counts down to that number and the "thought of card" will indeed be at that number. All of the remaining cards can then be shown again to all be different.

This isn't ACAAN in the strictest sense (THINK of any card), but I am telling you from experience that the reaction to this is THE SAME to the average spectator.

Oh.....and it is easy peasy to do.

Joe
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Sounds like a nice gaff, but from what I gather, the turn over move would be a little suspect, no? Is a large part of the card covered? The Mind Power Deck is one of my favourites. I really like the concept of allowing the spec to shuffle the MP deck. Of course, properly managed, they will assume they're shuffling a regular deck, so they won't be looking at it during the shuffle (if you're doing your job right). They can then peek at the top card, and bingo! You have a VERY strong presentation of the MP deck, which is probably less fallible than the original. I think this is really worth a try, just make sure you're watching who's looking at the deck!
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Potty,
The turnover move would not be suspect if done correctly and smoothly. Back in the late 1980s or early 1990s, Michael Skinner came out with a 3 card monte effect that used the same principle and move. The move had to be done several times over the course of the routine. It killed. Its just a matter of practicing and getting the move down smoothly
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Forget about the "turn-over move" (unless you want to do it)..

...Just simply pick up the tabled face-down card and turn it over (while still holding on to it)---98.5% of the entire face can be freely shown...certainly convincing enough for any spectator.

btw-If you pick up both the face-down tabled "selected card" & the "prediction card" at the same time (one in each hand) and show their faces to the crowd---it makes perfect sense why you'd be holding the card(s) by their corners.
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I just got the Mastermind Deck. It's definitely a USPCC factory printed deck.

The instructions are written for the beginner (which is OK) and the two effects mentioned above are explained in the instructions - a prediction and a CAAN effect. As someone pointed out, the spectator must physically select a card - not just think of any card, so technically I don't think this is an ACAAN effect, although it says so on the deck wrapper.

I have a couple of Monte Cristo decks made by Neil Lester (Cards By Martin), and this Mastermind Deck is nicer, IMO. It's like a brand new deck of Bicycle cards.

Lots of possibilities with this deck. And if nothing else, it's a GREAT forcing deck. Comes in 3H or 3S. The 3H deck could be used with Tim Trono's Branded, for example.

Robert
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On 2010-03-01 15:13, Potty the Pirate wrote:
Sounds like a nice gaff, but from what I gather, the turn over move would be a little suspect, no? Is a large part of the card covered? The Mind Power Deck is one of my favourites. I really like the concept of allowing the spec to shuffle the MP deck. Of course, properly managed, they will assume they're shuffling a regular deck, so they won't be looking at it during the shuffle (if you're doing your job right). They can then peek at the top card, and bingo! You have a VERY strong presentation of the MP deck, which is probably less fallible than the original. I think this is really worth a try, just make sure you're watching who's looking at the deck!
Potty Smile


I think the analogy with the MP deck is excellent with respect to how much "protection" must be provided with respect to the spectators handling/viewing of the deck. In a nutshell, you can spread the deck, but I wouldn't likely allow a spectator to handle (shuffle) the deck.

With respect to showing the selected card, no turnover is required.....it's simple and natural to show the card(s) as necessary to achieve the effect. No undue covering is involved.

Joe
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