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Benji Bruce
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So I thought I would give Gigmasters a try and I signed up. Not only did I sign up as a Mentalist, I made another profile as a motivational speaker and decided to get the best service they offer. But it was a waste of money.

ALL my gig leads from the motivational speaker page were nothing but kid parties that are looking for magicians and clowns. I get the EXACT same leads from my Mentalist profile as I do from the Motivational Speaker one. So I asked for my money back...they said no. I was a day late from the 30 day money back guarantee.

I guess Gigmasters will just take your money and run. So if you decide to cancel your membership then you better be sure you're not a second late because then you violate the rules and they keep your money. And getting two profiles sure won't help because you will get the same leads...but at least you get to respond twice in case you mess up on the first time.

Overall, I thought Gigmasters would have better customer service but I guess not. I'll take my business elsewhere and tell every performer how horrible they are. And I sure don't plan on paying Gigmasters anything (even if that means I get a rating of one).

Just thought you guys should know.
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I feel Benji. I've had some success with Gigmaasters, however, most of my leads (85%) are always for kids parties, clowns, and churches with a budget of $100.00.

Sometime the sweet leads come in, which the other performers and myself fight to get. It is a little pricey. I have only been a member for about 11 months, and they've already made almost $1,000 from my membership and booking fees. ($921.00)

Just wish they would cater a little more to the higher tier performers. Absolutely no offense to anybody. We're all here to make some money!

It's much easier to pick a birthday party performer than a grand opening, post-prom event, or cocktail party performer. I know some search for months until they find the right one. Usually I hear that people pick kids show performers with their visit time searching the web or Gigmasters.

Overall, Gigmasters has made me a good bit of money.
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Our listings appear right alongside GigMasters in searches and we only require a very small annual fee (we are mostly kid-show centric though). In fact, we can always tweak your listing content to appear higher too. In a business sense, GigMasters tries to do a little too much I think (they have grown very fast in just a couple years) - but they are losing customers in some industries and doing very well in other categories (bands in particular). It will be interesting over time to see what happens.
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MagicianGuide,
Your website is terrible. You charge for that? I can't find any magician listings for any state. I've clicked on several and there's no magicians! The website is so cluttered, but are there any real listings on your site? Am I missing something? Gigmasters site is much better organized than yours, but maybe I'm just missing something!

I don't mean to make you feel bad, but if you're trying to charge people for your website, I think they should be warned!
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On 2010-03-10 12:04, EliTheIllusionist wrote:
Just wish they would cater a little more to the higher tier performers.


If you will read over the other thread in this forum you will see that several Café users of GigMasters subscribe to the theory that there are high end gigs to be had and its not a bottom feeding site. Just because you don't get the gig doesn't mean that you got beat by a lower price.

Being that we are just about in the same market Eli, you will recognize the name Chris Capehart. He does very well with GigMasters and I don't think an entertainer of that caliber is price cutting everyone.

As for me, I do ok on GigMasters, not great, but certainly good enough to continue with them.
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Benji Bruce
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I don't deal with people I don't like since it will be more of a hassle and that is what gigmasters is. They were really nice to me before I signed up. Offering me a 50% discount, saying they would help out with setting up the profile and transfer everything for me, etc etc. But now that they have my money and I'm a day late from their guarantee, I'm screwed.

I don't plan on giving them any more money.
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Hi Benji

I checked out what categories you have checked on your profile. If you check comedy magician etc. your going to have to weed thru the kids show inquiries. Just be real specific as to what categories, the leads will be fewer but more targeted to what you want.
PM me if you need more details.
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I actually just took out the Birthday Party (Children) from my filter about 5 minutes ago.

My leads will drastically decrease in general. But will be worth it overall hopefully.

I just looked at my "No thank you" folder on Gigmasters. It's up to 298. Only in 11 months! I should just be a birthday party entertainer...
Benji Bruce
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On 2010-03-10 14:02, EliTheIllusionist wrote:
I actually just took out the Birthday Party (Children) from my filter about 5 minutes ago.

My leads will drastically decrease in general. But will be worth it overall hopefully.

I just looked at my "No thank you" folder on Gigmasters. It's up to 298. Only in 11 months! I should just be a birthday party entertainer...



Yea maybe if I was a birthday party magician then they would have given me leeway and let me get my money back with 30 days and 5 seconds Smile. Or maybe they would have kept my money and not cared again.
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On 2010-03-10 13:31, gmindmagic wrote:
Hi Benji

I checked out what categories you have checked on your profile. If you check comedy magician etc. your going to have to weed thru the kids show inquiries. Just be real specific as to what categories, the leads will be fewer but more targeted to what you want.
PM me if you need more details.


That doesn't work. I signed up as a mentalist & psychic and did not put myself in the magic category and still got leads for kids parties.

When I first signed up for Gigmasters several years ago, I got some decent leads and was able to make money from it. However over the past year, I finally dropped it because I wasn't getting any quality leads. Every lead I got was for kids parties.

I know this past holiday season was slow for everyone and I made sure I was on Gigmasters through the December, starting in the summer. Not one inquiry came in from Gigmasters. I did far better with SEO on my site. At least I made money!
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Gigmasters is worth it for me and the people I dealt with are great. But, then again, I never tried to stretch the rules.
Benji Bruce
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On 2010-03-10 17:01, bunkyhenry wrote:
Gigmasters is worth it for me and the people I dealt with are great. But, then again, I never tried to stretch the rules.



They're great until they have your money Smile
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I only dealt with them AFTER they had my money. Why would I deal with them before I paid?
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If they gave money back for being one day over the 30 day limit, then the people who were two days over the limit would be mad. that's why they have a limit. That is what a limit is.
Benji Bruce
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The problem with Gigmasters is they forget who their buyers are. They do everything to make the website user-friendly so people can search for entertainers, etc and book through them. But Gigmasters' buyers are the performers. Every performer can survive without a website like Gigmasters (and agencies, bureaus, event planners, etc) But Gigmasters cannot survive without the performer. Their buyer is the entertainer.

Due to their lack of leniency, I lost a little over $100 which is nothing. They lost thousands of dollars. They are not going to get me to come back, I'll tell every entertainer I know not to sign up for their site, and they won't get any percentage of my gigs. And the worse part is that they don't know about it.

Any good business would work with the buyer (as long as it isn't unreasonable). The food industry is a perfect example. Unfortunately, Gigmasters will lose more money than I did because they don't realize who their buyers are.
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The biggest problem with Gigmasters is they add 10 unasked for performers to every booking request

It's an OPT-OUT and it encourages bottom feeders


Ken Northridge -
You may want to check your numbers
Not going to post some one elses #'s here but as good as Chris Capeheart is (one of the best in the business and maybe the best crash link ever) he hasn't generated immense revenue through Gigmasters this year. That may be his choice as he can play just about any where he wants
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It is normal for gigmaster to send out requests to more than ten performers. I think the reason why they do this is slim pickens. As polititions often say "It's the economy stupid". If gigmaster only sent request to five magicians then you would get 1/2 as many offers.
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Vick is right on top of it. I can't stand that "checkbox" for adding 10 other performers to the gig email list.
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On 2010-03-10 17:55, bunkyhenry wrote:
If they gave money back for being one day over the 30 day limit, then the people who were two days over the limit would be mad. that's why they have a limit. That is what a limit is.

Sorry Benji, but I have to agree...

Posted: Mar 11, 2010 3:45am
Benji, I guess I don't understand...in another thread you knocked SEO/Adwords marketing yet you signed up for gigmasters??? They are ALL online leads bud.

The only reason I joined gigmasters is because they are on the first page of all the searches so I figured if I can't beat em, join em!. They are right there next to organic and pay per click search results.

Instead of dealing with gigmasters I would just brush up on an adwords course and optimize my site for the types of shows I wanted...

You were fighting everyone so hard on that other thread yet you go and join gigmasters, I just don't get it! lol don't fight it anymore! It will take you less time to optimize your site than it will to post on here
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I don't understand why anyone would do it in the first place. It invites price shopping, it invites them to look at you as a 'magician' and not as a person and it seems to take away from any real chance you have to establish a relationship with a client.

As for the one day late, well whose fault is that? Are you really complaining that they didn't let you get money back when you were PAST the deadline? It really puts things in perspective though.
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