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David Thiel Inner circle Western Canada...where all that oil is 4005 Posts 
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I have been looking for a replacement for my Diabolicus for a couple of years now. It's a small black box with green and black trim on it.
Would purchase or trade for one. David
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723sabre Loyal user 260 Posts
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DON'T get the Milton Bradley version, it's NOT the same and is almost unworkable.
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3058 Posts
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Just picked up a Diabolicus and was suprised how much easier it is to read versus the MB version. Same material on the box, I assume it is the m######S in the cube that are different or weaker.
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts
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I have no probleme whit the Mb version ... I love his design.
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3058 Posts
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Stereo,glad the MB version is working fine for you. My 15 year old son can get the "Read" on both verions but finds the Tenyo version easier. My aging eyes find the MB version difficult but no issue with the Tenyo. Having said that I am happy to have both in the collection!
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Killertweety Inner circle Belgium (-Europe) 1457 Posts
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Wow, I always 'defended' the MB version when people compared it to Tenyo's and finally decided to put them aside/to the test of the almighty Tweety's eye
 . I made a picture of it but that gave away the secret, so I won't post it (unless you convince me in a personal message you have one of each  ).
My conclusion and do believe me, the Tenyo version is MUCH (and I mean A LOT!) better and easier to read. When I compared them I even couldn't figure out what the symbol in the MB was! Perhaps this gives away the secret easier then MB's version? I don't know, I never performed it to an audience. |
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts
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I don't have the real diabolicus ... Difficult for me to express my opinion of the blow lol
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magic patagonia Special user 570 Posts
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On 2010-06-08 15:46, Killertweety wrote: Agree with you Killertweety...much easier to read the Tenyo version....but the MB version is much more beautiful...a month go I decided to keep just one of the two and to sell the other...It was an easy choice for me...I keep the MB. |
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xl18 Loyal user 291 Posts
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Had a chance to compare the two side by side as well. I found the Tenyo version a little easier to read but I did not see that big a difference.
I actually like the design of the Tenyo version better. While the MB version is more elaborate, you are sort of locked into the Knight's Tomb storyline when you perform the trick. The Tenyo version has a more generic ESP theme which to me is more versatile and would work better with other mental tricks. |
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3058 Posts
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I wonder if some of the MB versions are possibly better than others. There is a clear difference on the set I have. I tend to agree and prefer the cleaner look of the Tenyo version.
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723sabre Loyal user 260 Posts
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On 2010-06-10 18:28, J M Talbot wrote: This could be the case. All I know is I had both, and frankly, the MB version was very difficult, if not almost impossible at times to "read". In the end, I got rid of it. I too favor the more generic look of the Tenyo verison anyway, less toylike and allows for different storylines when peresnting it. |
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jcs013 Regular user 113 Posts
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It is difficult to read the MB version. I am going to sell the one I have. I did not realize the was an earlier release.
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gimmickless Veteran user 305 Posts
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One again http://www.themagictrickshop.co.uk/product.html?prod_id=423
its unopened |
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pierredan Special user Dai Vernon's birthplace 540 Posts
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Great Price!
Oh sorry, I thought it was a Ultra Tube... |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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$450 for a "Diabolicus"? Crazy.
By the way, my "Diabolicus" doesn't seem to work at all. Has anyone else had one just die? I see no markings at all. |
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edshern Special user 957 Posts
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I never was able to see the markings well on the two that I've owned.
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teevtee Special user 963 Posts
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Richard:
I assume this is a Diabolicus that you used to be able to see more easily? As with Edshern I have never ben able to see mine very well... on the bright side I did not pay $450 for it. |
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Killertweety Inner circle Belgium (-Europe) 1457 Posts
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I can see the markings a bit 'too' easy for my taste on one of my versions actually, it is so obvious I always think spectators must see something fishy, but this has never happend yet.
I store the cover and the 'stone' away from eachother, and also away from other magnets. Perhaps a strong magnet can ruin the gimmick? |
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xl18 Loyal user 291 Posts
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I have two versions of Diabolicus as well. One version is extremly easy to read while one is fairly difficult and requires some practice to able to read it correctly.
I had always assumed Tenyo made the easier one first and then changed it to make it more subtle. I don't think there is a need to store them separately as it comes stored together in the packaging. |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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Interesting. I had no idea that the working of the gimmick was so inconsistent. Does it have anything to do with being in daylight? Florescent light? Incandescent light?
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