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Agaton
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I was thinking of an MD (in proper order) placed in a card box. The spectator takes it out, cuts anywhere in the deck and looks at the bottom card. He then shuffles the packet and deals it in two piles on the table. I will know the card they chose, since I would count the cards. However, is there a way to find what pile the card landed?

I know I read something like this before. Anybody can lead me to it?
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Normally not (as the spectator is shuffling the pack), but if you like to use e. g. an one-way-back design it could be done guiding the spectator to handle his cut to card a specific way. Jan
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If you get them to deal the cards face up into red and black piles you'd know.
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Not very original, but if you make a spread of the two piles, you know in which spread the card is if you use a marked deck in combination with your MD.
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Is there a specific reason you would have the cards dealt into two packets? If you can glimpse the top card of the remaining (original bottom half) packet, you don't need to count their packet. If the remaining packet isn't needed, casually double cut the top card to the bottom and glimpse, or whatever. Another option is to use a marked deck. Now you instantly know their card, and depending on the markings, you could determine the packet it's dealt into as well.

Someone mentioned dealing them face up; you could also have one pile face up and one face down.

I'll keep thinking...
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But then you don't need a MD. Not seeing any faces and no need to glimpse would be the strength. Plus that the routine would be completely hands off. Jan
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Thank you for the ideas guys. Yes, I would want it hands off since it would make the effect a bit powerful. The reason why it's being dealt is because it's being counted. In performance, I would just try to feel the packets by placing my hands on them (not touching) and then tell them which packet has their card and immediately tell them what they chose.

@WilburrUK, good idea, they could even have it dealt face down while you would just casually tell them to place the red ones "here" and balck ones "there." I would just need a reason why I would separate them.

@Jan, I could somehow play with the one way back...but I want my back to be turned the whole time before I divine it (sorry for not mentioning this earlier).
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Good point Jan.

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Hey Agaton, a sleightly (pun intended) different method can be found in Ehlers killer MD routine. He has a small packet cut off the top of the deck and the bottom card looked at. They then shuffle their packet. The spectator is then told to spread their cards in a fan towards themselves, and to locate their card and concentrate on it (but not to give it away by staring at it). You help them spread the cards in their hands, explaining as you go, but secretly counting them. This is a great method, and if presented correctly, they feel as if they just thought of any card in their shuffled spread, forgetting how they actually selected the card.
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Absolutely , Cohiba, one of my all time favorite routine and/or method. See also Simon Aronson's "Four Part Harmony" (in "The Aronson Approach"). I substituted the dealing procedure (done by the spectator) by a quick spreading done by me. Jan
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