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MagicPresident
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I'm looking for some details on an old
effect in which the magician cuts an ad
any place the spectator requests and the
last line of the ad remaining was found
in the envelope that was on display before
the trick began.
Anybody have a source?
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Ted Lesley
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Dear Mr. President:
You`ll find a description of that trick in Harry Lorraine´s "Magic Book" on pages 224 to 227 under the Title "Line o`Type".

An advanced method you will find in Al Mann`s manuscript titled "Six Columns" and in another Al Mann manuscript with the title: "Super Clip Line Plus"!

Any questions? Feel free to ask!

TED LESLEY Smile
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This is one of thise effects that looks so simple in print that you're dare not try it. However, this is a wonderful trick, and I have used it, along with the Hoy Book Test, ever since I read them.

Plus, it's near enough impromptu! Harry Lorayne says he's prepared for it during the show, if he's got a paper to hand!

Ben
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Here is my 3 post and 47 to go.

I recommend Dan Harlans version from his Mentalism DVD. He shows you how to construct a fool proof method that works. When you see the gimmicked clip line it'll make you drool. You have to build it yourself but it works.

Al Manns methods are great but his AME are hard to come buy. I love Al Mann and some of his effects are genius some are just ideas.

The cheapest book I can think of that will explain the effect is Karl Fulves (sp) mentalism book. Sells for about 7 bucks. I am looking for the book but I cant find it. Someone might know the name. I know it' about atomatic or semi-auto mentalism.

Richard Osterlind sells his version I think. Never seen it or have I used it.

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The original verison of what is commonly called "Clip Line" was by Al Spackman (in Gen, 1964), and exists in the literature in many versions, such as that (#33 "The Want Ad Test") in Karl Fulves' inexpensive Self-Working Mental Magic. As such, it has been widely exposed, and although the original version is still a good one, you run the risk of more astute audience members being aware of it.

Subsequently, there have been considerably more sophisticated versions. It is, for example, extensively discussed in Al Mann's Super Clip Line Plus. Richard Osterlind's Dynamic Mysteries has a whole chapter on his version. Roy Miller has an excellent gaffed version on the market (this is the one used by Chuck Hickok in his Mentalism, Incorporated), and Gary Lee Williams has published (in Stephen Minch's Spectacle) one that will fool all the magicians who think they know it.

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MagicPres,
You would do yourself a major favor by looking up Richard Osterlinds effect along this line in his book "Dynamic Mysteries" (I think???)
We've used it many times and it has some kickers in it that fool even the wise one's.
Ted (Leondo)
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mentalism incorporated have a section deals with it.
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Doug, where can you get the Roy Miller version?

And Ted, I did not realize that Richard had this effect on the market, can you tell me what it is called and where I can find it?

Thanks to all!
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Hi Robert

Osterlind´s version is called "ALPHA MENTAL"
and it is available from my "Wonderworkshop"

http://www.wonderworkshop.de

( I HATE these plugs Smile )

TED

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Robert Sixx asked:
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Doug, where can you get the Roy Miller version?


Roy's Miller Clipper is, I believe, available only from him directly. You can reach him at [email]rmiller7@erols.com[/email].

Highly recommended.

... Doug
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Turk
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Does anyone know if the methodology used by Jay Sankey in his excellent "Cut Here" effect is original with him? The reason I'm asking is because I am in the process of developing an expanded effect that uses that precise method and I'd like to both give credit to and seek permission of the originator of that methodology. I, of course, plan on writing to Jay in this regard. But, if the methodology goes further back, I'd like to be thorough in my research, my crediting and my seeking of permission(s).

Thanks for any information in that regard.

Mike

P.S. No inference of plagarism or lack of originality on the part of Jay Sankey was intended (and hopefully not implied) by the above questions and comments. I'm just anal retentive when it comes to crediting and seeking permissions. And I know that lots of times a person can unknowingly "invent" something that, unbeknownst to him, had been previously created by another.

I know that Al Spackman's "Clip Line" has seen many many variations and I'm just trying to get to the earliest source of the methodology used by Jay. Knowing Jay's creative and wackey mind, it is highly probable that the "Cut Here" methodolgy first saw the light of day courtesy of Jay. But, I'm just trying to cover my "academic research" bases.
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The exact effect the thread's author originally mentioned can be found in Karl Fulves' Self Working Mental Magic. It is trick 33 entitled The Want Ad Test and appears on page 53.

I should mention both the wonderful Jeff Sheridan and Richard Osterlind have a version that deals with the written text of a newspaper clipping with the same method and presentation on their dvds.
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With the permission of Roy Miller (and the help of Doug Dyment), I have modified Roy's method so that you can change or customize the "force line" or "force word".

I call my effect SNIPPER. I supply the newsprint and a WORD document with a newspaper article already printed in the way necessary to make the routine work every time with no moves. Everything looks so fair. All your effort can be on presentation.

The headline can be changed ... and the force line can be changed. Just modify the article to fit your needs and run it thru your printer. This allows me to have the force line tie into the theme of the evenet or the host name. I have used it in every corporate show for the past 10 years.

This is one of the fairest and strongest I know. It seems so impossible.

Check out: http://www.chuckhickok.com./tools.html

I accept Paypal.

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With all the respect for the various Clipline/Snipper/Clipper/etc etc
If you work for a thinking audience, you should seriously consider Osterlind's Clipline de luxe.

Even magicians and others "in the know" get stunned about this.

I use it as my closer for smaller audiences, and it always get great reactions

Sven
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On 2007-08-23 11:51, ChuckHickok wrote:
I call my effect SNIPPER. I supply the newsprint and a WORD document with a newspaper article already printed in the way necessary to make the routine work every time with no moves.

Chuck Hickok

Chuck,

SNIPPER sounds quite interesting.

How much newprint paper is supplied and how many newspaper articles (of reasonable length) can you print with the supplied newsprint)? Also, is there a ready supply for additional newprint paper either from you or from "regular" outside sources (i.e., like printers or your local newspaper, etc.)?

Thanks for the info.

Mike
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On 2007-08-23 17:47, Turk wrote:
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On 2007-08-23 11:51, ChuckHickok wrote:
I call my effect SNIPPER. I supply the newsprint and a WORD document with a newspaper article already printed in the way necessary to make the routine work every time with no moves.

Chuck Hickok

Chuck,

SNIPPER sounds quite interesting.

How much newprint paper is supplied and how many newspaper articles (of reasonable length) can you print with the supplied newsprint)? Also, is there a ready supply for additional newprint paper either from you or from "regular" outside sources (i.e., like printers or your local newspaper, etc.)?

Thanks for the info.

Mike


Mike, I've used Chuck's Clipper in about 10 different venues. Each time I customized the paper for the event. I found the "paper" at a craft store and now I make my own. You can find newsprint artists use at any craft store in a big pad.

Clipper is a KILLER. Easy to perform and make.

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Turk
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Thanks for that information, John. It is very much appreciated.
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I use the version Jay Sankey shows on his "22 Blows to the Head" DVD. I always go to the newspaper stands that give out free paper.
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The Clip Line Deluxe Set-up combined with the Clipper idea is very strong, IMHO.

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