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Now that you mention Sorcar, I'll tell you something about him that I'm reasonably sure hasn't gotten around much. I imagine you know who Walter Blaney is. Walter told me once that he was at a convention with P.C. Sorcar in attendance. Nobody wanted to have anything to do with Sorcar, because, after all, "he always wore that silly turban, etc."

So Walter went over and struck up a conversation with him. After a while, some television people came over and wanted to interview Sorcar. They didn't want to have anything to do with the other magicians. When they finished, Sorcar confided in Walter. "I know that most magicians think I'm some kind of a fool because I dress this way. Do you see who is going to be on television tonight? That's why I dress this way."

Sorcar was a huge publicity hound. But like him or not, he could produce the goods when he was put on the spot. People in India still know of him.

BTW, a friend of mine who is a well-known collector bought Sorcar's turban at auction. Everyone laughed because he paid a lot for it. He found out that some of those jewels in it were real!
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On 2010-04-24 22:09, Bill Palmer wrote:
The German magazines praise him to the skies.


Not all of them, Bill. It's true, that the "Magie", the monthly magazine of the "Magischer Zirkel von Deutschland" praised the magician Kalanag and "forgot" to light the other side of the medal. The other big magazine in Germany, "Magische Welt" (edited by the late Werry, now by Wittus Witt), dealt very critically with the subject Kalanag, much to the discontent of the MZvD.
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My friend said that he remembered Sorcar doing a trick where he made a clock in the center of town stop. My friend was stupefied. To him, it was not a trick but a miracle.

I'm sure he only remembered only parts of it and like most laypeople have forgotten the details that seemed unimportant to him, but more than likely is the crux to the modus operandi.
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On 2010-04-24 22:09, Bill Palmer wrote:
The German magazines praise him to the skies.


Not all of them, Bill. It's true, that the "Magie", the monthly magazine of the "Magischer Zirkel von Deutschland" praised the magician Kalanag and "forgot" to light the other side of the medal. The other big magazine in Germany, "Magische Welt" (edited by the late Werry, now by Wittus Witt), dealt very critically with the subject Kalanag, much to the discontent of the MZvD.


It's understandable that MAGIE would have praised Kalanag. He was the editor of the magazine for quite a while.

And then, of course, there was the scandal that Kalanag caused when he refused to turn the Hofzinser ring over to Punx.

There is no doubt that Kalanag was at the very least an opportunist; however, even now there is still a lot of pro-Kalanag activity in various parts of Germany.
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Considering the questions raised here regarding Kalanag's political affiliations, I'm curious as to why prominent British magic writer Will Dexter spoke so glowingly of Kalanag as a magician (in the book _Famous Magic Secrets__ written for the lay public) and why Irene Larsen featured her translation of the Kalanag autobiography in the pages of _GENII_ back in the 60's. In the Dexter book on page 96, Dexter writes: "In April, 1955, when the Magic Circle celebrated its golden jubilee, Kalanag insisted on coming over from Germany just to perform 'a trick or two' at the final Gala Night Show. What happened? Around the middle of the afternoon, an air-liner glided to rest at London Airport. Out of it came Kalanag and Gloria--followed by thirty members of his company! They put on a whirlwind potted version of their famous magical revue, presented at lightning speed. When the curtain came down, the great audience rose to its feet and gave Kalanag a standing ovation. Back came Kalanag, Gloria, and the company. And _they_ gave something in return--a heavy silver pitcher, beautifully inscribed, for the Magic Circle museum."

The pitcher, of course, was a lota bowl--water from India.

I'm just trying to understand why someone whose character has been called into question here on the Café would be acknowledged in a British magic book as an outstanding magician of his time.

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Even with his checkered past, Kalanag did put on, without question, one of the greatest magic shows that was ever done. One of my sources says that he trouped 80 tons of equipment and 40 assistants. He also kept the Magischer Zirkel von Deutschland alive during WWII.

A lot of the information that we now have about Kalanag was unknown during the 1950's, having been very carefully covered up by Schreiber and his people. I believe Richard Hatch may have written a biography of Kalanag that appeared in Magic magazine. I don't subscribe to Magic, so I couldn't tell you.

Regarding Irene Larsen -- she knew the face of Kalanag that people saw on television and backstage. He was, to one degree or another, a friend of hers.

So, basically, it's a question of what you know and what you believe. I wouldn't trust most of the internet sources, because so many of them are heavily biased one way or the other.

Posted: Apr 25, 2010 1:15pm
I should add that a person's morality, religion, ethnic background, etc. have NOTHING to do with his skill as a performer and his ability to move an audience. As I mentioned in my list of 10, Steinschneider (Hanussen) was an extremely influential magician. He was an incredible performer, yet he was an opportunist and was probably responsible for an act that catalyzed to the Holocaust and WW II.

That does not diminish or increase his influence.
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Well said.
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I thought about this...
And I could be a smart ass and name many of my
father's temporaries easily, including him.
But I'm going to take it one step even futher.

I'm going to say my TOP 100 is the entire
Chicago Magician's Roundtable.

Yes all 100 plus 8.

This is up to 1955 or so...
Therefore I'm limiting up to a specific time.

If you ever get an opportunity to look at the
Salla poster you get an amazing group of people
including Charlie McCarthy.
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On 2010-04-25 22:54, Marshall Thornside wrote:...I'm going to say my TOP 100 is the entire Chicago Magician's Roundtable.


Wish I could get to Chicago more often. It's a great town on many levels. Here's a picture taken in Chicago from my "collection" of Okito materials (Richard Hatch now has the original) I added Max Maven to the picture with photoshop at one point as part of a spoof a few years ago.

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Great photo. I can spot a few of the luminaries, but am not sure who all of them are. I see Jack Gwynne poking around in the back and Harlan Tarbell to the right. And of course Theo Bamberg is front and center. I think the person behind Okito is Walter Gibson, but I am not sure. And I'm certain that the person to the far left is Bert Allerton.

Can you list the names of these fine gentlemen.
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Well, there was a time when I could name them all. Ill see if I can reconstruct that part of my memory and get them for you. Also, I found the original pic (without Max Maven). Here it is:

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Walter Graham is in there and at one point I even knew the name of the hotel in Chicago but Im getting older and my memory isn't what it used to be. Will see what I can do.
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Jean Hugard next to Bert?
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I've only seen a few pictures of Jean Hugard when he was older, but I think you are correct. If this is a gathering of Chicago magicians, where is Ed Marlo?
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Taking notes. Smile
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I can see Bert Allerton, (not sure), John Braun, (not sure), Walter Gibson, Okito, Jack Gwynne, Arthur Buckley, Harlan Tarbell, (not sure).
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Arthur Buckley, that's the one I couldn't remember. Very good!! If I recall, the one on the end is Walter Graham (book publisher I think).
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Fourth from the left is Sid Lorraine.
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Allerton, Hugard, Braun, Lorraine, Gibson, Bamberg, Gwynn, Buckley, Tarbell and the last guy?
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I don't think Walter Graham is that old.
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On 2010-04-27 02:55, Bill Palmer wrote:
I don't think Walter Graham is that old.


Graham was born in 1923 I think. Im pretty sure this picture is from the 47 SAM/IBM convention in Chicago so that would make Graham much too young, you're right, if IM right.

The Okito sticker on it was from Okito's promo material I bought many years ago as part of a broader magic paper collection when I was deep into studying Bamberg's shop philosophy, tools and methods. I based my gig around his philosophy of finishing out every inch of a prop, inside and outside. That you would be judged as much by how the unseen is finished in his eyes.

Made sense to me and I ended up with this marvelous picture.
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