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Flyswatter Veteran user 370 Posts |
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On 2010-04-26 14:55, ralphs007 wrote: Hi Ralph, thanks a lot for the info, however, I still have a question. I'm new to bill switching effects, does this effect require a mismade bill or can I change a bill into any other bill I want? Thanks for your help. |
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afknight Elite user 499 Posts |
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Hi Ralph, Hi flyswatter I'm sure Ralph will agree with me - you can do this bill switch with any other bill, not just the mismade bill. afknight |
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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
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On 2010-04-15 21:37, daffydoug wrote: Depending on the specific effect you're doing, I simply don't think it's as clean. A $1 bill is borrowed. The magician changes it into a $100 bill. Any spectator with a brain is going to ask "Where did the $1 bill go?" In this scenario, the TT allows you to offer compelling proofs that the bill is totally gone. They can see your empty hands with fingers wide open, and they can examine the bill themselves. You don't even need to make a fishy ditching action, or use acquitments that only show one empty hand at a time.
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
I agree the T.T. is the way to go. I know Pete Biro and a few others don't agree with that. But as Andrew said above with a t.t. you can show your hands empty of anything but the bill. For me every single non t.t. version I have ever seen done has never looked that clean.
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Steven Keyl Inner circle Washington, D.C. 2630 Posts |
As usual, it depends on context.
If you're changing denominations then yes, open hands with a TT can cancel the idea that it was switched. However, I typically use a mismade bill. When I borrow someone's bill and fold it up, I present it as an optical illusion that makes the bill appear to be "put together wrong." They always want to see it for themselves. I begrudgingly give it to them for just a few seconds so they can see/feel the bill and then "fold it back to normal." All the heat is on the bill and the presentation itself helps counter the idea of a switch. Plus, when I do this it's normally in an unplanned situation. I always carry around a mismade bill in my wallet, I rarely have a TT.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
It is a shame none of you are likely to have seen Johnny Paul do his bill switch routine. Sans TT. It was magical and fun.
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markmiller Special user 731 Posts |
Johnny Paul had a gentle funny touch on everything from the mini-invisible deck to the bunnies and on and on.
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Bill Hallahan Inner circle New Hampshire 3226 Posts |
Jim Sistis' routine, "Transmutation", in the first issue of the Magic Menu (September/October 1990), requires a TT for a very good reason that I can't mention here. (Thank you to Jim Sisti for providing the reference).
It's a great routine. That idea that I can't mention has others applications. It's worth checking out.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3528 Posts |
You need to go to a larger Reserve Bank to guarantee getting bills in s*r**s, but I'm a little surprised you're having so much trouble getting them at all...
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On 2010-04-16 17:18, daffydoug wrote: Posted: May 6, 2010 4:19pm -------------------------------- Ask to "BUY" a dollar bill from them. when you reach into your pocket to get the gimmick, you also bring out 4 quarters to "purchase" the bill with. The bill is now yours. The audience has no "logical" call to ask where "their" bill is. Of course that's not going to stop everyone from asking, but it helps to reduce the number of jokers who say: "OK I'll TAKE MY BILL BACK NOW >YUCK< >YUCK< >YUCK<!" Quote: On 2010-04-27 22:49, Andrew Musgrave wrote:
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John Long Inner circle New Jersey 2826 Posts |
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On 2010-04-27 22:49, Andrew Musgrave wrote: I tend to agree. There are times when I would like to be able to hand the bill back, and show my hands empty (briefly) before going to my pockets. Also, I find it much easier to ditch a TT than a folded bill.
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
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On 2010-04-23 02:17, Pete Biro wrote: Is it on his video's?
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CasualSoul Special user Edmonton, Canada 542 Posts |
I think the issue as to whether you do a switch with or without a TT depends on the type of effect you are doing. For example, trying to do an effect similar to the Juan Hundred Dollar Bill Switch just wouldn't work without a TT. Such an instant and very visual vanish requires you to be able to show empty hands right away to keep the magic strong, IMHO. When the focus of the effect isn't the switch itself, or where you are doing lots of folding and have opportunity for misdirection, is where I wouldn't bother with a TT.
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
I don't use a TT when performing the Mismade Bill. There is no reason to use a TT - NONE. It's actually easier without it. I show my hands empty and people think the bill has to be gimmicked, until they examine it. Then, there is no place to go with it. It does, however, require an understanding of the spectator's thought processes, as the routine progresses.
I've been using the handling that I developed, since 1994, maybe longer. Brad Lancaster challenged me to come up with the handling, and it exceeded my expectations of what a switch could be. |
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dooblehorn Inner circle Pittsburg, CA 2482 Posts |
I had same problem, no banks had them...I ended up getting 100 $1's in s***es from an Amazon seller...pretty good price too, though I paid a bit more than face value, I think 20.00 more for the stack of 100
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On 2010-04-16 17:18, daffydoug wrote: |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
I learned the $100 bill switch from Ammar's method. I've done it that way ever since, then I got the Mismade Bill. That came set up already, and yes, it's the very same effect, w/o the T.T.
As to which is better...I really don't know. If you KNOW the T.T. method, you're golden. If you don't, well the other method works great, AND it's clean (sort of). You just have to do something "special" (we're not in Secret Sessions Here), before you hand it out...am I right? Am I mistaken? Doug |
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Jboeskin New user Yuma, AZ 81 Posts |
I also agree, most of the time I feel like using a thumbtip would be better since I can show my hands completely empty after without having to ditch anything right away. However, I am not really happy with the method I use (i learned it a while ago and don't remember where). What are your favorite bill switches with thumbtips?
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Jboeskin New user Yuma, AZ 81 Posts |
Ok so I settled on Michael Ammar's method of doing the bill switch. I really like the little touch he added to help as it unfolds. I just feel like I need a lot more practice to make it look more natural..
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Spackle666 Loyal user 234 Posts |
A TT is irrelevant in a bill switch. So much better without it.
"it's bad luck to be superstitious."
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
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On 2010-06-26 14:09, Alan Munro wrote: Briefly, what are some of those thought processes?
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PsychoJack New user 36 Posts |
I still think there's no reason to fold a bill if you had real magic, I'm still gonna go with Extreme Burn...
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