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bigdaddyhaystack
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Hello all. I am a new member to the Magic Café and to Magic in general. It has been six months or so since I picked up a deck of cards for reasons other than poker.

My question has to do with the state of the skin of the hands when handling cards. I simply cannot do things like the Erdnase color change, snap change, etc, easily without putting lotion on my hands. Is that normal?

I just wonder how all of you combat this issue, if you have it.
David P
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For cards and coins. I have tried two things for dry hands. Both work and last an hour or two, for me.. One is about 3 drops of straight glycerin. This is a bit sticky at first, then absorbs.

The other is a glycerin/rosewater mix found at a natural foods store. This is thinner and easier to use.

This must be a normal problem. There is an extensive post on MCF offering other solutions.
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Yes, it’s a common issue.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=41

Just doing a search for “hand lotion” will turn up a bazillion threads.

I recently discovered by accident that handling “Slime” (the kid’s “eww” toy product) does something to my hands, including moisturizing, that makes handling small items (including cards) much easier.

But normally I’ll use something containing beeswax and/or glycerin.
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Thanks a lot guys. I will definitely give that stuff a try, though it would seem unlikely that washing my hands before touching the cards will be of any advantage... since I am going to be putting a glycerin substance on my hands.
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If you put a little Quick-Sort (people who handle money often have it up by the cash register) behind you ear you can get a little traction when needed and it keeps you cards cleaner for longer than an all over solution.

Both work. It's a matter of choice.

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I'm all thumbs unless I have a little dab of lotion. But I'll try some of that Quick-Sort stuff. Thanks for the tip!
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http://www.legerdomain.com/secc1.htm
I use the product found in the preceding link...BTW the proper name is "Sort Kwik"
not Quick Sort. This can be found at any office supply. I also use "Golden Touch" spray.

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My hands are always extremely dry. I went to a dermatologist a lot and after trying countless lotions, creams and gels I found what I believe is the best control I can get. I have a prescription for Ammonium Lactate 12% Lotion. Rite Aid charges $60 for a 400mg bottle if you don't have insurance. I soak my hands before bed at night and then I pat them dry and put a small amount of that lotion on and go right to sleep. When I wake up I put Corn Huskers Lotion on and I put it on before I go out at night, my hands seem to be about as smooth as they're gonna get. I also try to drink as much water as I can throughout the day.
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Thanks DomKabala,

It's the lysdexia again.

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I too use the glycerin/rosewater mix.

It does make my hands moist for a while. Not sure if any of you guys have this problem, but, if the usage is prolonged, my skin on my palms will start peeling.
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Folks, a magician friend of mine recommended this product. I bought some and it works pretty good. It seems the older we get the dryer our skin gets, so if any of y'all on this thread are over forty, chances are you have dryer skin than you did when you were a youngster. I'm 62 and just getting started! I retired into magic, a dream of mine for years. I'll never be a great card man, but this stuff does work pretty good.
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I am in the process of trying everything recommended here. The Sort-Kwik doesn't seem to do it for me. I think I'd like an all over solution better than something localized just to the tips of the fingers. Yes, I did spread the stuff all over, but it seemed to degrade very quickly. Still on the search. Next stop : Nature's Way for some of the rose water mix.
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On 2010-05-18 01:15, bigdaddyhaystack wrote:
Yes, I did spread the stuff all over, but it seemed to degrade very quickly.
Well to be honest, SortKwik is not intended to be "swabbed" all over the hands, and it is not intended to be a dry skin cure. It is an aid for people who count money such as bank tellers or cashiers. They only need the tips of their fingers to be moist in order to count money accurately. SortKwik is not long lasting and must be applied frequently...BTW.

Dry skin is the bain of many a magician and the remedies number in the dozens. I have dry skin because I am older...when I was younger I had the opposite problem; my hands would sweat profusely. Personally, I use Neutragena's odorless "Norwegian Formula Hand Cream" and Chamberlain's "Golden Touch" spray for everyday use as a skin conditioner. I have a small atomizer in which I carry my supply (couple fluid ozs.)of "Golden Touch" because the spray bottle is too large to carry in a pocket. It has a pleasant odor also. I use the Neutragena cream mostly in the winter season as this works great for me.

I also carry a small tub of Legerdomain's "Skinner's Edge Card Creme" in my pocket everywhere I go for emergency applications. This is a topical creme that is used to give me that critical "Edge" and is applied only to the tips of the fingers and thumb. This lasts longer and a "little daub" will do ya!

It is said that Mike Skinner had the manufacturers of SortKwik make a "special formula" up for him and that he always carried a small tub in his sock for those times he needed an "edge".

I can definitely recommend the aforementioned products. Good luck in your quset! BTW, as an aside... increase your consumption of water!

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I love using sort Kwik. Best stuff I ever use. I got the tip from martin nash when his Charming Cheat lecture first came out on vid. He use to dab some behind his ear. I never forget to have it with me.
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On 2010-05-17 11:29, Bob1Dog wrote:
Folks, a magician friend of mine recommended this product. I bought some and it works pretty good. It seems the older we get the dryer our skin gets, so if any of y'all on this thread are over forty, chances are you have dryer skin than you did when you were a youngster. I'm 62 and just getting started! I retired into magic, a dream of mine for years. I'll never be a great card man, but this stuff does work pretty good.
best, bob

http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?ma......d=lotion


I once asked this very question to Bill Malone and he recommended this very product. He said this is was the same thing that both Marlo and Vernon used.

If it was good enough for them then it will be good enough for us mere mortals.
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All good recommendations above… another thing that I have found is if you get the cards up to body temperature by keeping them in your pocket, they handle much better. Just watch out for keeping them in the back pocket… they might form a curve.

Good luck,
Bruce
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