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Well, it could happen. I know a certain showman who hasn't had a thought in his head for about fifty years.
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http://www.cracked.com/article_18519_6-p......ife.html #5 on that list is James Harrisson...also refered to as Goldenarm. A rare enzyme in his blood has saved the lives of nearly 2million babies...

#3 on that list, Henrietta Lacks had a uncanny ability too. She passed from cancer, but...: "50 million metric tons of Henrietta's "immortal" cells have been grown (enough to outweigh 100 Empire State Buildings). In 1952 alone, Henrietta's HeLa cells helped save millions of people (mostly children) during the worst years of the polio epidemic."

Taking these 1 in a billion individuals into account, I'd say it is possible that this man COULD have some type of self survival mechanism, maybe he creates and recyles his own nutrients?...maybe. Science sure is hella 'interestin'.

I'll be watching this story to see if it ends up being BS, but it would be nifty if he ended up being the real deal, and was open to scientific study...
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The circumstances with Henrietta Lacks have become very controversial, and there is a television program in the works about her story.

The problems with the man who says he hasn't eaten or drank in 70 years are many. For one, the scientists weren't trying to determine *if* he could do this, but how* he was doing it; they came into the situation already accepting the validity of his claims.

After long enough without food, and more importantly water, the body starts to consume itself, and death usually results from heart failure.

The scientists report that the man never went to the bathroom. They say at one point, he had a small amount of liquid in his bladder, but that later, it was gone. The question to me is not where did the urine go (I'm pretty sure I know where it went), but, if the man hasn't eaten or drank in 70 years *why did he have liquid in his bladder*?

If he's not taking in sustinance, and he's not wasting away, then where is his body getting nutrients? Breatharians claim they get all their nutrients from sun and air, but that is simply not possible. So, the only option left is that this man is being divinely sustained, which opens up a whole other kettle of fish. (That he can't eat).
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I have my doubts, having no food maybe it's posible. Having no water as well impossible.
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Maybe he secretly eats some dirt, in some culture people have been known to eat dirt or clay.
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Now that the story has gone global if his a fake as I suspect he is, he will get exposed, there's too many people iterested now.
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Wonder what he used his mouth for then !!!!
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The circumstances with Henrietta Lacks have become very controversial, and there is a television program in the works about her story.

The problems with the man who says he hasn't eaten or drank in 70 years are many. For one, the scientists weren't trying to determine *if* he could do this, but how* he was doing it; they came into the situation already accepting the validity of his claims.

After long enough without food, and more importantly water, the body starts to consume itself, and death usually results from heart failure.

The scientists report that the man never went to the bathroom. They say at one point, he had a small amount of liquid in his bladder, but that later, it was gone. The question to me is not where did the urine go (I'm pretty sure I know where it went), but, if the man hasn't eaten or drank in 70 years *why did he have liquid in his bladder*?

If he's not taking in sustinance, and he's not wasting away, then where is his body getting nutrients? Breatharians claim they get all their nutrients from sun and air, but that is simply not possible. So, the only option left is that this man is being divinely sustained, which opens up a whole other kettle of fish. (That he can't eat).


The controversy is regarding the fact the Henrietta Lacks never gave permission for her cells to be used, also that millions have been made off her, while her descendants still live in poverty. Not that HELA cells aren't real. If Henrietta Lacks can exist, so can this no consumption guy.

Although this man's story IS likely BS, I believe in science, and still stand by the fact that this COULD be true. People absorb urine back into themselves when the bladder is full, maybe he can do it constantly. He could be his own biodome...The urine could come from a hydrating tumor for all we know, and recycle inside him. -I have a bursa on my foot that fills up every month...where does it go when it drains internally? hmmm. Drinking one's own urine over and over is a survival technique...Perhaps he has a magic bladder that keeps him alive. Better yet-a bladder with a bursa! COULD be he creates his own nutrients. -Maybe his bursas are kin to a one-a -day vitamin. I've seen weirder, and I don't think it's stupid to think this COULD be true. Unlikely, yes, but anything IS possible. Even this.
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The controversy is regarding the fact the Henrietta Lacks never gave permission for her cells to be used, also that millions have been made off her, while her descendants still live in poverty. Not that HELA cells aren't real. If Henrietta Lacks can exist, so can this no consumption guy.

Although this man's story IS likely BS, I believe in science, and still stand by the fact that this COULD be true. People absorb urine back into themselves when the bladder is full, maybe he can do it constantly. He could be his own biodome...The urine could come from a hydrating tumor for all we know, and recycle inside him. -I have a bursa on my foot that fills up every month...where does it go when it drains internally? hmmm. Drinking one's own urine over and over is a survival technique...Perhaps he has a magic bladder that keeps him alive. Better yet-a bladder with a bursa! COULD be he creates his own nutrients. -Maybe his bursas are kin to a one-a -day vitamin. I've seen weirder, and I don't think it's stupid to think this COULD be true. Unlikely, yes, but anything IS possible. Even this.


Oh yeah--I never meant to imply that the HeLa cells aren't real, I just mentioned the controversy as an interesting piece of information.

The significant difference between your bursa, and this man's claims, is that you hydrate your body regularly, so there is a constant, functional balance of fluid in your body. He claims not to. Even if his body was recycling fluid, nutrients, etc., he claims to be a closed system (nothing in, nothing out), so there would be a continual loss of resources due to use, without those resources ever being replenished, eventually leaving zero resources. Same as if someone lived strictly off recycling their urine, their body would use (and therefore destroy) what it could in order to function, and dump the rest, until there would eventually be no urine to excrete.

No one can create their own nutrients, they can only derive them from other sources (conservation of matter). Without those other sources (food and water) to draw the nutrients from, his body would eventually begin to consume itself. And while the body can reabsorb the elements that ultimately make up urine, I can't find any support for the reabsorption of the actual urine. He would have to be the human equivalent of a perpetual motion machine, and perpetual motion is scientifically impossible.

I didn't say it's stupid to think this could be true, just that the facts indicate that what this man is claiming isn't possible. So, either he is lying; there is some other process involved that works differently than his explanation; or it's a true miracle.
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"He couldn't create his own nutrients without some raw material (food and water) to draw those nutrients from; his body would eventually begin to consume itself."

I'm arguing that due to some crazy as yet to be explained scientific phenomenon he could, possibly, be the exception to the rule.

When I gave birth, and my urethra was swollen (sorry for the visual...), I had to go through a detox IV because, as the doc's told me, urine had partially been absorbed, and was toxic. It's common in childbirth for this to happen, although a catheter is usually put in before that absorption takes place. In my case, the wrong catheter was used initially (it was surgical, and not big enough to drain me on it's own). A wider one was inserted once this was discovered (oh fun), and they pushed on my belly to get the rest out. It could have been the 'elements of urine' they were referring to, but that's not what they called it Smile

ewwwwwwwwwww.

Just sayin' Smile And no offense taken or implied, of course Smile
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When I gave birth, and my urethra was swollen (sorry for the visual...), I had to go through a detox IV because, as the doc's told me, urine had partially been absorbed, and was toxic. It's common in childbirth for this to happen, although a catheter is usually put in before that absorption takes place. In my case, the wrong catheter was used initially (it was surgical, and not big enough to drain me on it's own). A wider one was inserted once this was discovered (oh fun), and they pushed on my belly to get the rest out. It could have been the 'elements of urine' they were referring to, but that's not what they called it Smile

ewwwwwwwwwww.

Just sayin' Smile And no offense taken or implied, of course Smile
Ah, ok, that makes sense; that was a poisoning, rather than a reclamation. Sounds like a truly unpleasant experience.

And no, no offense taken, and definitely none intended--as you can see from some other threads in which I've piped up, I really enjoy an exchange and/or debate of ideas and information. Thanks!
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ROTFLMAO @ Harley! and hmmmmmmmmm.... Smile

And Thank YOU Swami Smile
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I've seen this before, he is still around. Makes you wonder...

I really hope this is not a hoax but I'm not holding my breath...

Hmmm...
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And David Blaine only went 44 days! Smile
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