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KOTAH
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Yes, the mis spelling of ouija was intentional. An attempt to draw your attention and possible interest; begin a conversation perhaps.

Since Ouija boards are supposed to be so ancient, why are most if not all; Printed with modern letters of the alphabet and words? What if the letters were Hebrew or some other ancient text. Or possibly even foriegn languages. Symbols such asa on rune stones? I think not only the look of the board could be seen as even more mystical. A board such as this with a different language on each side would allow the performer to use it to a targeted group or nationality.
Have I made one? No I haven't, but I could. You could too if the idea strikes you as even slughtly useful or valuable.
For now, just a thought I felt like sharing.


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Nice idea Kotah....
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Yes, I agree. A lot of things could be done with this idea. How about ancient Egyptian as one example? You could have a list of phonetic equivalents of the hieroglyphs.

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Or you could have a Scouse one, which would be water based after their conversation !!!

Sorry guy's, but it's likely that only those from the U.K. will get that one.
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A board to contact the dead souls of children could use phonetics, or even picture cards to signal intent/messages.
Combine with Konxari cards arranged like alphabet cards on polished table - no need for board per se. Very dark.
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If I were to make an 'ancient' one, I'd go for the version from ancienct Greece - a plaque with the letters (in Greek of course) using a pendulum in stead of a planchette. It would be historically correct.
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I like the idea of originality. But don't forget your audience. They are not experts. They are there to be entertained. Part of the fun for them is reading the words etc as they are spelled out and the messages when selected. Words they don't understand could besically mean anything. Not so convincing for the audience.
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Jabbo 666, I did say for possible use with a targeted group or nationality.
I have read here many times that performers often fear their audience or at least one member of it may BE an expert. That wasn't the point of this post. Expanding the use of presentations for the woard was. I love Dr. Steves suggestion. And yes use a pendulum, why not! Bizarre as well the thought that a Ouija board night be combined with a board game such as chess or checkers. The pieces taken and the letters they covered used to create an anagram or message from beyond. View things from outside the box to discover different sides.

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Actually I've seen some beautifully hand crafted boards at wicca and new age stores here in So-cal.

Next time I visit one I'll take some pictures for you. It's a good idea. Frankly when I figure out how to use a ouija effect in my show I know for a fact I will be taking the commercial element out of it.
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On 2010-05-24 15:35, Yannou wrote:
If I were to make an 'ancient' one, I'd go for the version from ancienct Greece - a plaque with the letters (in Greek of course) using a pendulum in stead of a planchette. It would be historically correct.


I think that's a great idea.
How about hanging the pendulum from a tripod (delphic oracle style) and either having two other people hold it, or make it swing on it's own.
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Steve,
I like your idea about the board to contact dead souls of children. I am going to play with that if you don't mind?
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Spirit boards have really only been in use as Oracles since the 1830s systems of raps, bells and even paper letter choices were slow.

The idea of Ouija and spirit boards is antithetical to true "reading" systems which allow the medium to interpret the arcane symbol for the sitter. The spelling board is to deliver a very direct message -- without a medium of interpreter.

Rune Readers and Tarot readers must use some talent and BS to put together a cogent reading and can make adjustments as they go along. Other than "short-speak" abbreviations (much like twitter-speak) a spelled word usually has a specific meaning.

But, that said -- the Ouija game and spirit board is powerful and intimate and should not be discounted as part of the medium's (magician's) arsenal.
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Gregg is right. Whoever told you that Ouija boards are "ancient" don't know what he or she is talking about. They are based on earlier practices including placing a bunch of cards on a table and inverting a stemmed glass and using it like a planchette. That was an advance on the earlier version known as table tipping. if you're looking for something ancient, try Cephalonomancy. That was a way to determine the name of a guilty person. The head of an ass was broiled, and when a guilty person's name was called out, the ass' jaws supposedly move.
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Gregg is right. Whoever told you that Ouija boards are "ancient" don't know what he or she is talking about. They are based on earlier practices including placing a bunch of cards on a table and inverting a stemmed glass and using it like a planchette. That was an advance on the earlier version known as table tipping. if you're looking for something ancient, try Cephalonomancy. That was a way to determine the name of a guilty person. The head of an ass was broiled, and when a guilty person's name was called out, the ass' jaws supposedly move.


In terms of finding guilty people you could have you spectators take turns licking a red hot ladle and interpret the burns. I think this could be a great way to find a card! Smile
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On 2010-05-24 22:52, dmkraig wrote:
Gregg is right. Whoever told you that Ouija boards are "ancient" don't know what he or she is talking about. They are based on earlier practices including placing a bunch of cards on a table and inverting a stemmed glass and using it like a planchette. That was an advance on the earlier version known as table tipping. if you're looking for something ancient, try Cephalonomancy. That was a way to determine the name of a guilty person. The head of an ass was broiled, and when a guilty person's name was called out, the ass' jaws supposedly move.


In terms of finding guilty people you could have you spectators take turns licking a red hot ladle and interpret the burns. I think this could be a great way to find a card! Smile


Actually, if you wanted to play it funny, I think that really could be a great way to find a card!
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On 2010-05-24 18:31, Roni wrote:
Steve,
I like your idea about the board to contact dead souls of children. I am going to play with that if you don't mind?
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Be my guest. And indeed, anyone else.
I think this may be too dark even for me!
Thanks to Brother Kotah for sparking off the idea.
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Steve,
I like your idea about the board to contact dead souls of children. I am going to play with that if you don't mind?
Roni

Hi, Look up Reculver in Kent (U.K.) It is a Roman Fort where the skeletons of hundreds of dead children have been found (possibly sacrificial). Great for a background story.
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On 2010-05-24 18:31, Roni wrote:
Steve,
I like your idea about the board to contact dead souls of children. I am going to play with that if you don't mind?
Roni

Hi, Look up Reculver in Kent (U.K.) It is a Roman Fort where the skeletons of hundreds of dead children have been found (possibly sacrificial). Great for a background story.
regards
Francis
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For those wanting ancient ouija takes on this thread. THis ties in with Bills idea od using egyptian glyphs. I watched a special on PBS the other day, about the breaking of the code and reading of Myan glyphs as well,

Maybe even a medical approach could be taken on things, OLd pictures of the human body studies under a sheet of glass could become an impromptu ouijaboard.

Tarot cards could be laid out face up,coved with a sheet of glass/plexiglass and selections made and read via the planchette.

Still just mulling the ideas around in my mind.

I enjoy the interaction of talking and thinking about ideas. It can be energizing. Why always rush to buy the latest and the greatest when we can create our own?

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Thinking twice on this -- the ancients did use pendulums a lot -- but the addition of spellng words is definitely 19th & 20th Century. Maybe Morse code was an influence?

A good thinker along these lines who I rarely if ever see here -- is Ed Solomon -- better known as DeNomolos. His penchant is to set things in Egyptian Style -- which is both colorful and arcane to most folks.Also remember that in the early to mid 20th century there was an "Egyptian" revival movement along with art deco. It can supply ideas and props.

I use a place called Tuscano to acquire support props (non magical) one line and catalog.
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