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mike storz
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Ok my favorite kid tricks for my stand up show are:

axtell meter
axtell magic drawing board
mismade flags- silly Billy routine
Blow yur Stack
neilsen vanishing ketchup bottle!
Believe it or not my FAVORITE is Silly Billy's magic coloring book routine!
How could I forget about Nick's snake in basket! I use snake tonwand, breakaway wand, fishing pole wand etc. Using the comedy about turning everything into snakes! Kids love it.

I also do Paul Rohmney's appearing Broom routine


things I hate:

I want to love the vanishing milk trick where you pour milk over tge kids head in a cone, it vanishes, then you put a glass of milk over his head and be pretends to drink the milk as it dissapears from the glass BUT it never works properly for me. The milk never stays in the glass for me until I'm ready to perform!!!!

I guess that's all I do not like. Smile
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I bought a deck of pirate cards in France (Happy Families). I've used the deck. for ambitious card for kids, and they LOVE the effect. I even performed it in Fench for a 3-year old - the premise being that the pirate the kid chooses can "escape" from the other pirates. The pirate arrives at the top if the deck(best is to force a particular card - the boy from the "Famille de Tresor"- the "Treasure Family", because it depicts a boy with a treasure chest full of candies), just about ANY kid can "get" the trick. Then, when he's in my mouth, and in my wallet, the kids, so very young, not only understand the trick, but laugh out loud. It's all about the presentation.
To address the actual thread, my most hated tricks are "Cups and balls" and "Linking Rings", because they are really SO old-hat, and it seems every novice has these in their repertoire.
My favourites are "Bill in Lemon" (or other fruit), and the TT vanish. Because, no matter how much they are repeated, they still infuse a sense of wonder and disbelief. But "Ambitious Card" is up there too, definitely a worker for younger kids, but of course, not with a regular deck.
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Potty,
Love the ambitious card presentation, great idea.
but, ...the rings! Oh man come on, why you gotta hate my rings! Just kidding of course, I understand. Smile
Actually, I never thought much of the rings until after I got a set; then I started really liking them and I get good reactions, so I kept them in the show.
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I do repeat card to pocket for kids. they love it and tell me "DO IT AGAIN" which is exactly what I want them to say. it's a very fun trick.

What do I hate: CANNED Patter. Can you say embarrassing CLICHE!!!!!!!!!

tissle, tassle, skissors, rabbits, anything cliche, puns, patter patter patter pitter patter. I hate all that stuff.

It's not the tricks I hate much as the thoughtless presentations and the complete lack of interest in making it any better than what was found in the cracker jack box. And from people that call themselves professionals.

Did you hear letterman laugh at the presentation given by the frist close-up guy last month? do you know why ? because it sounded like patter. Letterman was making fun of him/magic and said...

"heh heh heh, I love the patter. That's my favorite part".

Nothing should ever "sound" like patter.

Stop pattering!!!!!! Even the word is embarrassing.

Sometimes when I'm performing I catch myself sounding like I'm pattering. I'm not sure if the audience does but I do. I pause, take a breath and go back to "interacting" instead of "pattering".

I obviously have a script to work from but it takes work to make it seem conversational and not "pitter patter tissle tassle ... know why I call them skissors? 'cuz I can't say scissors. heh heh heh" *puke*.

Do whatever trick you want but make it hilarious and entertaining for real.
Patter from the box is the loweset form of low comedy.
If you think kids don't deserve better, well...... you're wrong and most of the time (if not all the time) there are adults watching a kids show too.
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MagicSanta
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Card to pocket is a great example of a non car trick card trick. Have anything vanish and appear in a pocket, specially if it surprises the magician, is funny to kids.
mike storz
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Some good non card tricks card tricks are the following (at least for me)

1. Appearing Broom as prediction. Use cards with all sorts of items written on the back. Force the broom and have a life size broom appear from bag.

2. All white deck. Very visual as you teach ghe kids how they make playing cards.
3. Obviously the snake in basket with signed card.
4. Chris Capehardt has some great routines with cards in his stand up kid shows.

Mike Smile
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On 2010-06-20 16:37, MagicSanta wrote:
Card to pocket is a great example of a non car trick card trick. Have anything vanish and appear in a pocket, specially if it surprises the magician, is funny to kids.


Exactly. It's a signed object to impossible location trick.
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On 2010-06-20 13:45, mike storz wrote:
things I hate:

I want to love the vanishing milk trick where you pour milk over tge kids head in a cone, it vanishes, then you put a glass of milk over his head and be pretends to drink the milk as it dissapears from the glass BUT it never works properly for me. The milk never stays in the glass for me until I'm ready to perform!!!!

I guess that's all I do not like. Smile


Mike, I am planning to perform the Silly Billy milk trick for the first time in an upcoming show, and I am also concerned about keeping the milk in the cup. When I practice, I screw it up about half the time. When you performed this trick and failed during the second portion, how did you handle it? I guess the good news is that, since you've already made the milk in the newspaper disappear, you could just end the trick there if necessary.
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I don't enjoy Breakaway Wand because of the omnipresent Viagra type jokes. Even if the Magician doesn't say it the audience will.
It changes the crowd entirely. I've never performed it and I never will. In fact last month I refused to take the darned thing from another Magician at a Magic meeting. I'm just not going there. I know this is tantamount to heresy but that's how I really feel about it and I'll bet I'm not the only woman (or man) who has been made to feel uncomfortable on this subject.

I love performing Ring and Rope. The kids "get" a direct solid through solid effect as Magical and the music I use is fun. My routine includes a little jugglery and so it is fun to do.

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I don't much care for linking rings, but I love PB&J as well as Trevor Lewis's Blooming Bouquet routine....yeah...I just love me some "Look No See" stuff. But, I generally only do one in a given show.

It doesn't bother me in the least bit to do tricks are are not original. Most of the kids haven't seen some the stock tricks and good patter (sorry Frank) will overcome the fact that they may have seen the coloring book before. If I can get them to laugh and feel magically empowered by it, PLUS have their parents cracking up, then I can walk out feeling that I've done my job well. Yet, I can see some rational in Al's perspective. I imagine if I ever get creative enough to come up some something that rocks and is totally unique (so what! it's redundant), then I'd probably feel pretty good about it too. And you can be sure that I'd get some marketing milage out of that uniqueness.

Mike, I love David Kaye's milk routine. Yes, I had one show in the last month where that darn tape wasn't covering the hole well enough and the milk level had dropped by the time I went to reach for it. I make extra shure it is on really well now. However, there is a tad delay when I reach back for it and have to scrape that tape off with my fingernail. I've considered using wax since I could scrape it off faster, but am afraid it would clog the hole. I'll just have to experiment with it.

The only card routine that I've seen that makes sense for me in a kid show is the one on the Capehart dvd. I've not used it yet.

Oh...I guess I've not much affection for chick/dove/turkey pans either. Maybe some day.
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A couple of people in this discussion have stated that "you can't do card tricks for kids." But here are some scenarios when card tricks can be very effective with "the little darlings."
1) If the cards are used as counters you can do a trick like six card repeat. I would expect that most kids can count to six.
2) You can bring out a Mental Photography Deck and say, "I was going to play 'Go Fish,' but the cards are all blank." A lot of kids know the game "Go Fish!" and even if they don't, the change from a blank deck to a normal one is so visual that the effect is obvious.
3) A color change from a black card to a red one is something most kids can appreciate. (I do a simple trick where I turn a card over--any black card--turn it back face down--and have the child tap the card to change it to another color. The child thinks _she_ did the magic!)
4) Some comic book companies produce card games with pictures of their superheroes on them. It's surprising how well kids know even some obscure superheroes, owing largely I suppose to the new movie genre based on superheroes.
5) I use an alphabet deck with tricks ranging from Joanne the Card Duck to the Audley Walsh Long Distance Side Spinner from Tarbell to spell out the birthday child's name or change the "I" card to any other letter and explaining that "The hand is quicker than the I." The kids will notice the letter change, and the parents will groan at the pun. (Any time you can make the adults at a child's birthday party realize that you're an ENTERTAINER and not just a "kid's entertainer" has its good points.)

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CARD DUCK!
Mary Mowder
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Starrpower,

Do you like or dislike CARD DUCK! ?
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In order, I hate rabbit productions (unless a roasting tray is involved!), chair suspension, magic colouring book, and all forms of wands.

I love puppets and stories.
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I love the rabbit productions, sponge balls and my Pop Gun Routine

I have never done the coloring book it just does not fit my character.
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I think the initial question may be flawed due to the fact that I have personally seen magicians truly ENTERTAIN with some of the effects "BAD" already listed. ( Card Duck as an example)
Likewise, I have seen props that everyone raves about fall flat as a coin on the railroad tracks....including MY effects.
A prop is a prop and nothing more even if it looks as cool as a Wolfs Magic creation ( shameless plug )
The overall impact and entertainment is up to each individual performer to spend the proper time writing and rehearsing an excellent routine.
I think the question should be what effects WORK for you and do NOT WORK for you.
Then begin a conversation as to what you may be doing wrong.
We all must be honest with ourselves as entertainers and evaluate our strengths and weaknesses.
Capitalize on your strengths and strengthen your weaknesses over time.
Just my opinion which actually increased the effectiveness of my show by 10 times once I actually took an honest look at my performance videos etc.
But hey...I may still suck and not even know it!

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I use a coloring book at EVERY performance (adult and kids). I do it is a tribute to the guy that ignited the fire of magic in me ate a very early age.

I have gotten good reactions from all age groups...just depends on how you present it.
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Chance you hit the nail on the head, I agree.


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First, regarding the 'cards-for-kids': The only card trick I'd ever even RISK doing for kids in a set / stage show is the six-card repeat (which I do with five instead). At my table-hopping gig, I wont do cards for kids unless theyre at least 9, and I've already won them over with another cool trick.

Now, as to the actual thread: Most hated.....the stratosphere!! UHG! So obvious so STUPID!!
the Fraidy-cat-rabbit! BOOOOORrrriiiing!!

Most liked.....the comedy chair...I could get a 20-min. routine out of it!
appearing broom, mop, and 8' wand. These seem to get the most frequent gapes, dropped jaws and squeals of disbeleif from the kids.
Everybody wants to beleive.....we just help them along.
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I would say my least favorite effect is Professor's Nightmare. I have tried both the "Snake Family" and "I worked in a spaghetti factory" bits and it never seems to go over very well.

Don't give up on the Stratosphere AKA Joker Tube. Find a way to make it unique. I use it in every show and it is a hit. I got rid of the BOX that it vanishes in and turn the "gimmicked ball" into an orange as the finale. Otherwise it is a predictable routine.

I do the vanishing Coke Bottle in a paper bag, but I first turn the Big Coke into a Little Coke. I have a 3 inch coke bottle as a novelty item. This is a hit with the kids. Remember kids understand simple things, like the difference between big and little, things changing colors, shapes, etc.

I used to hate the Change Bag because it just screams "MAGIC STORE PROP!", but I do a routine where my Change Bag is malfunctioning.

I avoid Break Away Wand and The Magic Coloring Book because my magician collegues in my area already use them.
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