Do you mean, is the rubbing convincing enough, or do you mean there is no need to prove anything?

I mean is there a need to prove anything.

We are discussing whether we should hand out the rings for inspection. I’m taking it a step further. Why even display the rings in such a manor as to say, “see, no gaps or holes!”

Shouldn't we be able to convince the audience that the rings are solid without such a straight forward approach?

Good thought, Ken. On anothe thread JT offered that the magic moment occurs when the spectator accepts that something has happened that contradicts what they know to be true. Thus, we should not spend much time teaching them what is true (or believed) and use props to which they can readily relate without any demonstration.

However, a 12" metal ring is not common to most people's familiarity and experienced believing, so some description might be necessary -- but nothing that implies it is other than common. For me, the rings are large only so that they are visible to the guy in the back row -- if I do close up I use smaller rings.

How about displaying a 5" SPirit Catcher -- hold it up and ask if eveyone can see it. When they say, "no," stretch it into a 10" ring and ask again -- then say, "Great -- I'll use that size. Wow, it even fits over my head -- thanks for the help."

Why don't we just ask them to suspend disbelief and accept that all of the most wonderful things already happened, and we can all go home...

What would you do if I came up to you and said I can make these two rings link by real magic. Would you just accept my claim, or would you want to look at the rings?

If you can bulldose your way past that with just force of personality, then you are a better con man than I am.