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Hugo New user Texas 46 Posts |
Hi All,
Does anyone do any reel work as part of your bizarre show? As you know, most seance-type magic is done in close proximity to the audience. With this in mind, does anyone have any suggestions for a reel that is - first and foremost - SILENT (!) and quick? Something useful for making a small, coin-sized medallion disappear in a seance setting? (Visibility of the thread is not really an issue - but it must be thread and not a rope!) Also (and before the pummeling begins!), I've already read through EVERY previous Café thread on reels and pulls (Tired?? Tell me about it...) and I came away with kudos for a few products, but none that convinced me that the reel was SILENT. Someone even recommended a Kennedy reel that I already own and, while it is a workhorse and dependable reel, it is anything but SILENT! Furthermore, most of the "reel" discussions on the Café were posted over 5 years ago. Has there been no progress made in the last 5 years? And, lastly, while I enjoy reading the tips and suggestions from the "parlor" guys and the "silk" gals, there is no substitute for receiving advice from members of your own tribe. So, I ask my questions humbly and await your guidance! |
The Curator V.I.P. Beware Vampire, I have 3909 Posts |
- A nylon thread (fishing line) and your finger.
- A nylon thread and a weight. - John Kennedy's reels. |
Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
I second the Curator and his reccomendations, especially the nylon thread and your finger.
I have tried many different reels and all of them, even the Real Ghost, have an element of noise that needs to be covered with music or some sort of misdirection. The Tarantula and the Spider pen...don't waste your money. In fact I can say, I've easily blown $500 on reels. And the best way is to just have the thread attached to you. The fishing line is great as you can see it to work with it the thread used for invisible thread reels requires patience. Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Check out vector thread....
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Hugo New user Texas 46 Posts |
Thanks for your replies, guys...
The medallion disappears from the hand, so I don't think that fishing line attached to a finger will work without tipping the trick. Same for thread and a weight (also too slow?) As I said, I like Kennedy reels for a lot of things, but for this particular effect, both of my Kennedys are too loud. I'm thinking a pull might be the best way to go, but I can't find a thin line that can easily & instantly attach to the ungimmicked medallion and still provide the spring (velocity) to quickly pull the medal away. Thanks for the tip on the Tarantula. I researched this gadget as well and came to similar conclusions - at least for this trick. Doc, you've got me stumped. I've searched the Café for "vector thread" and received nothing of value (unless I wanted to make my own cards or adapt a JPEG). Even Google doesn't seem to know what "vector thread" is...It must be the newest mystery from the Carcosa Collection! |
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
My apologies... Vectra .... ooops
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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kaytracy Inner circle Central California 1793 Posts |
You will likely have to do a hybrid pull, elastic for the main force part, and the non-elastic line at the attachment point, either clip, or pin hole and tied/plugged/knotted. If the clip is secured in an easy to obtain location, it should be easy to remove and apply it as needed, and increase the load on the elastic portion for the pull itself. (do not overlook the helpfulness of hook eye devices from the sewing section of the fabric or craft store, they come in several sizes and can hold some very handy things....)
Also, have you looked into the 'Now U C it' device? I think that is what it was called. k
Kay and Tory
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The Curator V.I.P. Beware Vampire, I have 3909 Posts |
A loop of fishing line attached to the medallion. A classic method to make an object vanish from between the palms of your hands...
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Why just obcess about using a pull? Is it just a medallion you wish to vanish or one with a chain attached to it. The medallion alone could be vanished using the new version of the Toppit recently released by Michael Ammar.
Even a Sonata style gimmick might get the job done if the medallion is not too large. Kotah |
Hugo New user Texas 46 Posts |
Helpful advice, all!
If the Vectra thread posted by Doc does what it claims, it may eliminate the need for the pull-hybrid. "Now U C it" has possibilities, as does Toppit. However, now the question becomes, "Can the spectator freely examine the medallion before it vanishes, if either of these two methods is used?" The "examinability factor" is why I don't think the fishing line loop would work, Curator, but maybe I'm not thinking creatively enough...it's obviously still a work in progress. Thanks to all for the thought-provoking advice! |
IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
If anyone is interested, martin breese has a watch with a built in double-reel...not got one, but thought I'd mention it...
I've asked to be banned
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kaytracy Inner circle Central California 1793 Posts |
The Now U C it does sound like a means if you consider how it works, and make the attachment just before needed, or after examination. Then again, the use of a palm or other method might mean a slight alteration to your presentation, but less trouble if the 'reel' is causing so much headache. Too many times I have fretted over a method I wanted to use, when someone suggested an alternate means...it was usually worth thinking or at least trying out.<often it was the solution needed>
perhaps a method without the reel is something to consider.
Kay and Tory
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