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Ty Argo
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Can anyone tell me of a place to learn various wand spins and utility moves incorporated with the spins? (i.e. vanishing a ball in left hand while spinning wand in right hand around it). Thanks in advance.
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Michael Ammar's book, "The Magic of Michael Ammar" would be a good place to learn them.

I would imagine his new Cups and Balls DVD would have all the wand spin steals in it as well.
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Thanks much Dan. Anyone else?
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I would add that Ammars Cups and Balls Book describes the various wand flourishes with many illustrated photos including the Drummers Spin and the Vernon Wand Spin.

You can also find it (if you can find them) on Dave Williamson's Sleight of Dave videos.

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Books are tough to learn the wand spin from. Mike Ammar's cups and balls videos teach it very clearly and slowly. You'll have it down in 10 minutes and then with a good amount of practice you'll be proficient with it.

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Some months ago I was surfing the net and came across a site dedicated to spinning pens. I haven't got the details to hand but its worth searching for - all transferrable to wands
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Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate it. Seems Ammar is on top of the game.
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I think that the superhandz site has some information, or at least a cool video of someone doing some pen spinning...

http://www.superhandz.com/penspin.htm
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Which C&B video is better to learn wand spins, volume one or two? Or should I just get both? I could use a nice C&B routine anyways. Thanks.
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Great question, BigT. The first place that I know of that details the wand spin is Lewis Ganson's book on Dia Vernon. It's part of Vernon's cups and balls chapter. Next place is Ammar's cups and balls book. But I have to agree, I never really had it down till I studied the cups and balls video. And I would strongly recommend getting the DVD. It lets you instantly replay the wand spin over and over. Ammar shows it numerous times, even in slow motion.
Lastly, let us not forget that Malini came up with this move. He used a fan, Vernon adapted it to a wand.
If you're only after the wand spin, you could skip the other volume (though both are great to have). I'm not sure which one it's on though. I will check and get back to you.
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I would suggest talking to a good drummer. I have played for years and I spin my sticks all the time. Once you get the hang of it, it would easily transfer to a wand. It looks fast and is not too hard to get the hang of. I don't know if I could explain in type, so grab a local drummer and "beat" it out of him. Sorry, couldn't resist.

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The Vernon Wand spin was not well, or in my opinion, correctly written up in the Dai Vernon Book of Magic by Ganson. COL Ganson, ordinarily very thorough, missed it on this one.

The best bet is probably the Ammar videos, but in the AV (thats ante video) era, the best write up was in one of Ammar's Magical Arts Journals. He actually had the line drawings of a person doing the wand spin drawn on the edges of the pages so you could flip the pages and see the move done dynamically like those little flip books that were available when I was a kid. This was really cool and the first and only instance I know of a magic move being taught this way, though I could be wrong. I could finally picture the concept correctly in my mind after looking at the flip book effect.
The striking vanish is Williamson's and is on his first tape if you can find it used or in "Williamson's Wonders." I believe it is also on Ammar's DVD's although I don't have them. It is also described and demo'ed on the Off The Cuff video in connection with ReCap.

That pen spin site is cool. Some people just have too much time on their hands...<S>.

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Here you go,

All with online videos to teach you too,

http://www.pentix.modenstudios.com/

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Thanks again everybody! Smile
Fon- That website had some neat stuff on it. Thanks for sharing!
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David Harkey explains in his book SIMPLE HARKEY a really good glass spin, page 73-75. He demonstrated the glass spin in a lecture August 1994 in sweden.
You can use the spin on other objects to...
I use it. Pretty easy when yo know the work Smile
I think this spin is a "drum spin" from the beginning.
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Just wanted to say that I went to a few of the pen spinning sites, and oooo my goodness. That was some really cool stuff. I think it's time to break out the ol' magic wand and practice some of those spins, it'd be nice to add some wand flourishes to my Cups and Balls routine.

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I just started College this year and I was doing the sonic casually in math class and so the kid beside me tried to spin his pen. And so i showed him again slower this time. And he tried and failed doing it again. Then I told him that it took me 3 months of Biology class to figure out how to do it. He gave up at that point.

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Kjellstrom, BigT123-- Ammar does the Vernon Wand Spin the best!! Stick with Michael's Video for that. And the reference to a glass spin made me remember that Michael Ammar lectured about how he learned to do a Bottle Spin just by watching the movie "Cocktail". He said it was the only thing worthwhile about that film. Smile
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The Dai Vernon wand spin is explained in the book "The Magic of Michael Ammar", and in the videos "Michael Ammar Live at the Magic Castle," Stevens Magic Emporium's Teach In series on Cups and Balls, and in one early Ammar video.

Dave Williamson has a different wand spin that he teaches in one of his videos (Sleight of Dave, if memory serves me right).

Mike Rogers also has a different, much simpler wand spin that is explained in the Steven"s Teach-in Series.

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My friend is a drummer. He said there is some video on the market that focuses entirely on spinning drumsticks.

I forgot the name but maybe someone else will know.


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