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My current card routine is a smaller, more visual card routine with productions, vanishes and transformations, coupled with roll outs and roll downs not usually seen in the west. Do any of you have a similar routine? And if so, which is better; a small, visual routine, or a big production where you stand on stage and produce endless showers of cards?

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hhmmmm,

I would say that if you have your own show, it is better to go with a full routine like Mr. Burton. If you only have a short time on stage, go with the smaller sequence.

I personally think a true professional can make both look just as good as each other. So in my opinion, do which ever looks best on camera, I guess.
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Personally, I find a well-polished, short and creative routine is much better then a longer routine with endless productions.

My reasoning for this is the same reason why dancing cane or linking rings gets boring after only a minute. If a card act becomes too long, it defeats the purpose of the act and the audience loses interest. It does not take long for them to realize the cards vanish and reappear.

The best idea for a card act of any type is to keep it short, creative and interesting through the use of transitions in the act. Make the act flow from one segment into the other and try to vary the productions.

Hope this helps.
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I agree, keeping the audience hooked - that's the key to a good routine!
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I think an audience can be hooked more if your using good transitions, great music and a good flow to the act that is built around a strong style. Be creative in your presentations and think outside of the box.
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Also something that gets very boring is if you stand on stage and do the same production over and over for like a dozen cards. It gets boring. If you only do about 5 cards in that position while people are still in aw, then you switch to a different manipulation, people will be twice as baffled. Their interest will keep building up if you keep doing different and more creative card productions.

I agree with Kyle about how it stays exciting if you make it flow very good and also you must have good music for a good manipulation act. Once you put all the pieces together, you will have a very powerful, entertaining, and creative manipulation act that will keep your audience wanting more.

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Evan:
Nicely said my friend.

I think you can also build impact and interest if you add in transitions from, say, cards to billard balls. Or, for example, you have a ball, you toss it in the air and it vanishes and turns into a silk when it touches the hands. Then this silk is used to produce a fan of cards.

This type of transitioning of effects builds interest without becoming too mondane.
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Thanks Kyle.

I also agree with transition of effects builds impact. If you have to stop the show for 30 seconds to change tricks, in a way you must start your "baffling" all over again from square one. If you can go right into another routine on stage and ALSO make it flow. The audience's dropped daws will stay on the floor.

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Said perfectly Evan. Thanks for the great opinions.
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Evan:
Exactly. Also my point for these creative transitions and flow of a manip. act is to prevent the act from getting to repetitious. Too many card productions gets boring fast. If you go from cards into a silk into billard balls, ball vansihes and turns to a jumbo coin etc. If you work the act like that, it builds more interest and the act does not get stagnant.
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Thanks guys.

Yeah your right Kyle, if you see any pro on TV or in person doing a manipulation act, they do exactly what you are talking about. I know Lance Burton does a famous candle and dove routine, which I have some of, and it is amazing. It isn't long, but the transition is fantastic.

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Evan:
That is a perfect example. In Lance's act, he is not stuck doing one particular vanish or move or sequence for any long length of time. He transitions very well and uses the dove productions to end the sequences he is performing. In this way he keeps it interesting and enjoyable to watch.
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Exactly.
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Lance's act is 2 and a half minutes long, though!

What sort of 'quality quantity' productions are you referring to using cards?

I'd be interested in hearing!
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For me, his act would only take about 1 and a half minutes long, since Lance is so amazing he always has to stop since the audience is roaring. As you can see I am a huge Lance fan Smile .

I think we got a little off topic and it doesn't have anything to do with the original topic (quality quantity). The reason we got talking about it, was because it was an example of making different manipulation acts flow together. In Lance's case, mainly doves and candles.

I hope this is what you meant, if not, explain and I'll take another shot at it! Smile

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Oh Evans I understand the points being made. I was asking for an example of a 'quality quantity' card production. Like a split fan isn't really one, as it is just fan after fan if you know what I mean.

Do you understand me now?

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I'm completely confused!
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