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J M Talbot
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On another note anyone know the offical T-#'s for the new line? They are not on the Japanese versions... at least I don't think so.

Thanks,

John
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Thank you David Thiel, your comment is very interesting.

T-243 for 4-D surprise,

For the others see my blog:
http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.com/search/l......%20tours
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Thanks Stereo... should have checked there in the first place!

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Actually used 4D surprise yesterday in a shopping mall for a Santa's Arrival. It worked very well...and as predicted, it got audible "oooohs" and "ahhhhhhs" from the audience.

But here is why I am probably putting it into the Drawer of No Return.

1)It's only gonna work well when you can completely control ALL the angles. (You're dead from the sides or behind.) I did this by telling people that I was planning to shrink and then "teleport" a famous American icon. (It was ostensibly a demo on how Santa teleports around the world in just one night.) I made them stand back "for their safety."

This allowed me to control the angles and, by hanging over the cube, I was able to keep people from looking at it from the top. (The ykw ('You Know What') can be seen from above, although it's seamless from the sides...) Slowly spinning the box really worked well...and once I'd completed the load I was literally good to go.

There were a good fifty people crowded around my table and I didn't get caught.

2)Stealing it from the magnet attached to the rail of my table (usually used for coin stuff) worked well...so did the finger palm. But what didn't work was my constant worries that in those few vulnerable seconds where the you-know-what is where anyone beside or behind can see it. It was difficult to relax.

3) No WAY can you hand the cube out for examination. It's not that they will uncover the secret. They won't. But that thing looks SO FRAGILE that putting it into the wrong hands would destroy it.

I am sure that it could be built into a whole fifteen minute routine with lots of byplay and police barrier tape...and audience interaction...but ultimately this is a close-up piece. I think the kind of treatment it's going to need may not merit the final 'reveal.' I have to think about it some more.

I love the effect.

I have tried to love the prop too...I just don't.
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On 2010-11-22 12:15, David Thiel wrote:
A couple of additional thoughts about 4D Surprise.

1) There's a small indentation at the bottom of the stage, which makes it possible to actually spin the illusion around slowly. This way your audience can get a good look at all sides.

2) Looking DOWN on the cube, your audience WILL see something. When I perform it, I keep my head over top of it as though I am looking down. This blocks the onlookers from seeing it from the top.

3) Fingerpalming the statue is much easier and safer than loading it in behind the wall. It cuts the visible angles significantly. I am really concerned about the angles of this effect and like to expose the statue for as short a time as possible.

4) I have also had success working the statue into the box with a little push of my thumb, while displaying the "wall" with my other hand.

5) When I am working from a seated position, I am able to stick the statue to the metallic side of my table so that I can grab it just an instant before loading it.

On the plus side: the reveal of the statue gets utter amazement from the audience when you do it right. Definitely worth the time and effort.

David


David: Very good ideas/ suggestions. Thank you. I think, based on your suggestion(s), I should be able to workout the presentation & spectator management aspects. Smile

Stereo: Very nice & informative blog. Right now, 4-D Surprise doesn't seem to be available from Magico-Japan shop - http://stores.ebay.com/magicojapan

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Thank you I'm verry happy if you love it. It's just the look of an amateur who love Tenyo tricks.

For the 4-d surprise When it's not avaible just wait couples hours and go back, it's just time for her to post a new listing, now there is 4-D suprise if you need it.
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I ,ove tenyo tricks I have a few
2011 line looks really cool
thaks for the info
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I have all four now of the 2011 line and like them all. Yes even Cloud Money. You have to be graceful with your movements and ACT like it is trying to float away. In front of the mirror it look most magical and realistic, but again it is all in the acting and handling. Smile
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Sounds good Angelo - can you whip up a Youtube video for you friends here at the Café? Smile
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All the new Tenyo 2011 tricks will be IN STOCK at the Magic Apple, in Studio City, Friday December 3rd!!
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Just for your information: the brilliant principle used in 4D Surprise has a predecessor which you can see here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/160514187576

(Disclaimer: I have no connection to the seller nor financial interest in the auction)
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On 2010-12-06 06:17, nicolino wrote:
Just for your information: the brilliant principle used in 4D Surprise has a predecessor which you can see here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/160514187576

(Disclaimer: I have no connection to the seller nor financial interest in the auction)

Yes...it's mentioned in the first posts of this forum...the trick is called Reality Twister: Lubor Fidler + Paul Harris.
Check it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAlIDZEt4iw
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Yes, you're right - but the thread is soo long, I forgot half of what's been writing before...! Smile
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Here's a question for those of you that own 4D Surprise. I see the videos of it but it looks like I'm performing it for myself, meaning that everything leading to the reveal is facing me. Is there a handling with the props facing the spectators or do they have to be behind you looking over your shoulder?
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Hi Evildan:

You perform this with the props facing the spectator... if the spectator was behind you it would not be good.
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Okay, I'm just saying that the demo shows the handling with the prop facing you. I just wanted to make sure that you do it with the reveal towards the audience.
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No problem Evildan... not sure which demo you are looking at... on this link to Stereo's great Tenyo site scroll down to the 4D suprise Demo it is presented from the spectators point of view.

http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.com/search/l......%20tours

Cheers,

John
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John,

Thanks for the link.
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I am not sure how 4D COULD be performed in the real world without heavy duty crowd control. It's too small to do from the stage and the angles will kill you with close-up unless you totally control the spectators. Great concept...powerful effect, as long as the variables are controlled. I posted previously about performing it at a shopping mall over Christmas...very nerve tingling. Not an effect I expect to perform again...unless I can figure out a way to make it "go."

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On 2010-10-20 10:44, J M Talbot wrote:
Below are the prices Hitomi (Magico) will be advertising on ebay for the new line:

Ghost Lamp US$34
4D Surprise US$26
Trap Box US$20
Cloud Money US$20

She thinks they will be ready at the end of the month (prices may even be a little cheaper if your order from her direct)

John


This is my first post as I just joined and I came across this thread. Love this site and want to say hi to everyone.

Magico is a member here?

Wow. I have ordered a lot from Magico on Ebay in the past and they were GREAT. Very nice in emails, lowest prices, new, mint items, and fast shipping to the US. I bought 7 of the 4D surprise, and about 5 of Severed Skeleton because I love the illusions, have many magician friends, and got such a low price.

I had no idea Hitomi was a lady.

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