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runawayjag Inner circle 1085 Posts |
Someone mentioned that I use mine and that is correct. In public performances I use the Sherwood engraved Silver set when I do the Vernon routine with the penny ending. I just recently purchased a set of gold cups with the Chop cup (4 cups total.) Awhile back I wrote about how overstrong the magnet was in the Sherwood Chop Cup. Apparently, Brett listened because the Chop cup in this gold set is absolutely perfect. It is almost exactly like the magnet in the Tim Star bronze sets I had made for my lecture tour 30 years ago. So, I will probably begin using the gold set whenever I perform the Mendoza Cups & Balls routine which uses a combo set.
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conjurormatt Regular user Ft. Worth, TX 181 Posts |
Yes, in case there was any confusion, I bought the cups from Dale. Glade to have done business with you.
Matthew Martin
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Brett Sherwood New user 96 Posts |
Hi DHOUCK,
Thanks for asking and yes, I still use the first set of cups I received in 2002! These are my same original prototype set of cups (with antique finish) I first received and they are now eight years old. Obviously, I take care of them, because I respect the artistry that has gone into them, but they were made to be 'workers'!. I STILL get a thrill using them in every show, because they make the manipulations so enjoyable. To answer your thread question; I know John Mendoza, Eric DeCamps, Kent Gunn, Roberto Giobbi and many more use them regularly, but obviously I have no way of knowing exactly how many, because I doubt they all read your post? Here is another photo of me performing on board the Celebrity Millennium cruise ship for about 1000 passengers! Yes, they can play BIG! If anyone is interested in a set I may be making another restock near the end of September, so please PM me and I'll be happy to help. All The Best, Brett Sherwood |
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Dale Houck Veteran user Dakota J Magic at Saint Cloud, FL 343 Posts |
Brett,
That antique finish on your cups looks great! I'm looking forward to being the proud owner of a set. There's precious little chance of me ever performing on the Celebrity Millennium, but there are excursion boats on the Biscayne Bay that I watch from my balcony every day. Maybe someday I'll get on board one of them and pretend! Dale http://www.dazustudios.com/images/ph208view.jpg
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dader76 New user Connecticut 42 Posts |
I am coming into this discussion rather late -- two years after the thread -- but have on comment on really ANY cups but especially ones of such value. I have a set of Paul Fox silver plated and really don't use very much but stare at and think about the past. Anyway, when I do use them I use a wooden want with wooden tips as opposed to brass tips or my Ammar mercury want to prevent dings etc. With those Sherwood cups I suspect the engraving would actually hide minor dings, but still it's the first one that would be the most painful. So use a want that protects the cups a bit and if anyone has a set they're too anxious to use, just let me know!!
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
I use my engraved silver cups all the time. Fortunately, the routine I use (from my book) does not require any violent banging of the cups and I do use a wooden wand with wooden tips. They are beautiful cups that should be used and not just displayed.
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Brett:
Your antique silver engraved cups remind me of the cups that Dai Vernon used. |
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts |
I continue to be perplexed over why anyone would have to whack their cups hard enough to leave dents in them. Silver, I know, is a soft metal and dents easily but still.....
The same thing applies to other cups of lesser metals. Why would anyone want to bounce a set of Gary Animal Cups or Phoenix Cups or whatever else off of concrete or beat the living c#@* out of them with a wand? Just because something is built like a tank doesn't mean that you have to go around crashing it! Sounds like something a bit screwy is going on there. And if perchance it's some sort of misdirection thing, there are a lot better ways to achieve it. Anyway, to each his own, I guess. Fortasse |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
I don't perform the cups and balls very often, but I used to have a number of cup sets in addition to my silver/gold Sherwoods and sold them all but the Sherwoods. Just not inclinded to perform with any of the others. Kind of the opposite of this topic's original question.
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kentfgunn Inner circle Merritt Island FL 1639 Posts |
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On 2013-01-03 10:46, Rainboguy wrote: Was that irony? Or is irony the taste in your mouth after using a rusty spoon? KG |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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On 2013-01-03 18:27, kentfgunn wrote: Nope. It's what happens when you use an iron in your lap, without a pad...well, maybe that's called Iron-Thighed... Doug |
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kentfgunn Inner circle Merritt Island FL 1639 Posts |
Iron-Thighed
Wasn't that a TV show with the Perry Mason guy in a wheelchair? |
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
The ONLY TIME I have ever handled a set of engraved cups was at Bill Palmer's home. I felt angels falling from heaven playing their harps when I touched them. He said I could mess around with them but I was too darn scared to! lol
I recently purchased the Antique Copper Bronze Cups and LOVE THEM! I use them every night in my restaurants and they get a great response. I did drop one on the floor one night and had a heart attack but there wasn't even a ding in it. Phew!
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
For 50 years I've been using extensively spun steel Paul Fox cups that I bought from Jeff Busby and they are still immaculate and without a scratch (let alone a bump naturally).
So I don't understand why some perfomer would buy nice cups and religiously leave them on a shelf, just by fear of dammaging them by repeated performances. Brett Sherwood is doing magificent cups... but not to put them on a shelf. I did look at Kent Gunn's cups (an he uses it extensively) and they were still pristine. My point is: buy nice cups and use them.
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cirrus Inner circle his minions made 1751 Posts |
I bought sisti cups and they are going to be worked (they are workers, so it's logical). I love the feel of them. One day I hope to own sherwood cups...
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
IMO, The worst thing you can do is to buy something wonderful and do nothing with it except set it on a shelf.
Use your wonderful props! They want to be used!!! They want to be "real". I was convinced of this when I read the Velveteen Rabbit to my children. Quote:
Now be like Kent and go use your damm cups!!!
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Dale Houck Veteran user Dakota J Magic at Saint Cloud, FL 343 Posts |
When I first posted my question in 2010, I had fifty or so sets of cups and almost two hundred chop cups. You can't use them all but sometimes you can't help but want to own them all. Since that original post, I did order a set of the antique engraved Sherwood cups and today it's one of only two full size sets of commercial cups I own. The other is a set of Rings 'N Things Montis in church bronze and it is languishing on ebay with 26 watchers and no takers. I'm trying to become a minimalist and it's getting easier but I recently parted with my Sherwood copper cups and there was nothing easy about that. The same for my RNT2 PF mini silver cups.
The Sherwood cups have been well used since they arrived but I never used the chop cup so I sold it. There are so many things bought by magicians and never used that I was looking for input on whether or not people used their Sherwood engraved cups to help me make my decision to purchase or not purchase. Of course that's only what I want to believe. In the end, if I wanted something I bought it anyway and that's a hard habit to change. I think we all make cogntive consonace or cognitive dissonance work the way we want if we're honest with ourselves.
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Jon Blakeney Special user Australia 657 Posts |
I use my engraved brass sherwoods with pride,at every chance I get.
If ya got em ,flaunt em I say.
'What the eye's see the heart must believe"
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Mike Segal Regular user Canada 124 Posts |
I use my Gold/Silver engraved for 'prestige' type shows, videos promo photos. These are by far the best cups I've ever used, in my opinion (and others too, it seems)
However, I also now have a set of the non-engraved copper Sherwoods, and I use those almost everyday. The cup's dimensions, size and weight just seem to work best for me of all the sets I have. |
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Ray Haining Inner circle Hot Springs, AR 1907 Posts |
I think one's hand size has something to do with which cups one finds comfortable. I think those with larger hands would find the Sherwood cups comfortable. Those with smaller hands would maybe find Paul Fox/Sisti style cups more to their liking. Can't beat those tennis-ball-size loads though.
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