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The Old Man
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"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools?"

I don't understand the reference.
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I would just like to know when the "happy" kicks in.
Mary Mowder
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Macbeth,

(And Star Trek).

-Mary Mowder
MagicSanta
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Ever been to Winnemucca? He's down right jolly.

Back to Ed, who has the videos?
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Earl, not Ed, Santa. No wonder you never deliver the toys to the right houses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIgZs21yB......index=12

His name was actually Everett when I first met him. He decided to change it to Earl one day and tried it out on a bunch of us at Mecca Magic in NJ. I told him it sounded like royalty and he liked that.

"Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing." Shakespeare in Macbeth.
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Dang, I have been typing Ed...sorry Earl! I do that, I'll get something in my head and run with it. I'll actually mistype the same word on a given day over and over. The other name I can never type the first time is Doug, there, I just had to correct it. I don't have a clue why I block it.

Thanks Spellbinder!
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It has nothing to do about nationality. Its all about the performer.

There are some absolute great kid-show performed in the USA, Dan Garret for instance. Using his show as an example, I loved it myself because he looked the part (wearing a wizard costume), he put on a 'show' (meaning his entire act was not contained to a briefcase) and most importantly he was able to make fun of himself. This last point is the key to understanding what makes children laugh.

In my show, I make the children feel important. I give them the magic powers and make the tricks work for them, and not for me. This gives them the control and the feeling of 'I'm special', which resonates with the kids. They don't feel like that normally. They never get to feel smarter than the adults, and with my show I give them what they crave, to be important and smarter than the grown-ups.
For that reason, I have complete control over the children for 2+ hours. Because they WANT to feel more of this.
It means I often look silly, or stupid which is not appreciated by most American magicians.

I say magicians, and not 'children's entertainers'. The problem I have with a lot of Children's show DVDs (both UK & USA) is the magician is showing off. They're performing trick after trick, its boring and not that impressive. All those DVDs are shot in a school hall, with teachers surrounding them to keep them in control. It is not a true representation of a normal Birthday party show, which is what the bread & butter of our business is.

I know my early show DVDs came under scrutiny because I showed a real Birthday party. It was a great show, but not set in a school with perfect kids. I had crying babies, bouncy castles and other obstacles to contend with. I tried to show the truth and help other entertainers by showing how to overcome those problems. Many people appreciate that and thanked me. But it was the few that couldn't understand why I did that, that made there voices a little louder.

They had watched many of the perfect kids show DVDs and expected all shows to be like that. Which is simply not the case.

Many DVDs so far have all been about 'make the magician look good'. Both in how he looks (wearing a suit is not proper attire), the size of his briefcase (a magic table holds so much more). Having an elaborate sound system and performing to music (definitely not applicable for most birthday party shows), and treating the children with respect and making them important (and not just prop holders).

Us Brits also like to run the full two hour party, with a full 60 minute magic show. While Americans shout at us because they only do 15-25 minute performances and claim to make twice as much money. But us UK entertainers get tons of repeat and referral work from each show, and only travel within 30 miles of our home. While the US entertainers seem to travel 400 miles to a show and have to beg for repeat work (mainly from libraries).

I've outlined some of the differences as I see them. No doubt I'll get shouted at simply because I am the only Brit willing to respond on this thread.

But the truth is, its not the nationality that separates us, there are just as many bad UK Magicians as US Magicians. But even those bad ones can teach us something, and who knows, if there in an area without competition - how are they suppose to know that there bad?
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I agree with Steve, Im a Brit myself...

If people think that even a 1 hour show is harsh... Get a load of this...!!

I do a 45 minute show,
1 hour show,
90 minute show
and a 2 hour show!

And I get work fine, and to be honest most of my work are 2 hour shows anyway because the parents are so thrilled that you can keep children amused for so long better than they've seen some teachers do!! A 25 minute show for me.... is maybe a vent routine and 2 tricks!!

I don't wish to have a fully blown arguement on here, but that is my point of view anyhow....

Cheers!!
Nick.
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Harris --

Wanted to chime in and say what a delight it was to see Emmeline's name mentioned. I knew her through the Puppeteers of America and she was talented, and very worth listening to. I am glad to hear that her legacy lives on through your work!

Cheers,
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I worked with her right after college. At the time I was working as a clients in a group home. At the time many friends and relatives questioned my decision. It is a 2 year period (back in 76 & 77, that has paid off for many years.

We did mall shows to corporate work. I remember shows from Peter and the Wolf to excerpts from Oklahoma the musical.

We do stand on the shoulders of those that came before.

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Any of you ever consider that someone from WINNEMUCCA, NEVADA referencing Indians might be talking about the Indians as in Native Americans that populate much of Nevada and maybe in a town named after an Indian chief?
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Could be.

I have a wonderful friend who shows the difference as feather not bead. (She is Native American/feather)


Harris

still too old to know everything....
a "fool" for all seasons...have puppets will travel...distances require a plane...or astral plain....
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Around here the indians call themselved indians or natives....so unhuff your chests of those out there that have no business huffing it out in the first place.
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I don't hold with the view that the British are the best children's entertainers, but I do prefer them to the Americans. Sorry, guys. Maybe I haven't seen enough of you, or maybe I have seen the wrong ones. I have seen some well-respected Americans doing shows that use too many props, and are too serious. I also dislike the messages that occasionally creep in - particularly gospel stuff.

But Presto was a revelation. What a sponge routine - genius. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. It shows what I always say. It is not the props or the backdrop or the staging. It is the man.
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He had a great stage style didn't he? Wonderful voice, completely in command.

Everyone knows the Russians are the best children show magicians.
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I feel obligated to disagree with you IMHO Argentina has the best childrens magicians.
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Having been to Argentina I disagree....
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Just how many childrens magicians did you see doing gigs when you were in Argentina? Maybe it was Uruguay that I was thinking of? Have you been to Uruguay too Santa?
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The quote from Shakespeare should be: "it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing."

Neither nationality, race, ethnicity, nor language make a magician better or worse. Each person who decides to be a magician makes himself or herself a good one or a bad one by study, by practice, by various decisions and taking the personal responsibility to either work hard at it, or not. What will be your legacy? What contributions are you making to improve the art that you can leave to the next generation of magicians? Those are the important questions to ask and answer before the candle goes out.
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I was in Uraguay, took the bus to Argentina. Great prices on leather and excellent beef in Uraguay. I actually didn't see any magicians in either country but I did run into a couple of angry anti US lesbians from Colorado that the locals asked us to remove from their country. I've been all over South America, love it, my favorite country is Chile.
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