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mrcraps
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Wooops just realized this post I replied to is really old :o
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Misconceptions by the uninformed:

1. The widely held belief that the dice MUST hit the back wall. Physics say otherwise. Rules say that the dice must hit the back wall, but rules are broken.

2. The widely held belief that the casino personnel with chide and torment if one of your dice doesn't hit the back wall. I was able to roll, and hit the wall with both dice, approximately 85 percent of the time. The other times one or both of the dice fell short of the wall. I was asked to have both dice hit the back wall ONCE in a couple of days of full action at this rate.

Once. And it was by the stickman, not by the boxmen that were present and watching.

3. The widely held belief that you'll be taken to a room and held or given a 'good talking to'. I've played a LOT of craps, lived in Vegas, and I've NEVER experienced anything like that.

In my extensive experience, the casino personnel have NEVER reversed a roll because one or both dice did not reach the back wall. They have NEVER asked me to leave the casino because I wasn't hitting the back wall every roll. I HAVE been asked to leave because I was winning. Back in the late 90's, I was banned from the California, Las Vegas Club and Mandalay Bay. But, I've returned and gambled in all of these since.

Last weekend, I had a LOT of action at empty tables where I was able to roll alone, without having to wait for dice to pass back around. I got a lot of action, and I made about $500 while having a blast getting that action.

I've rolled dice a LOT in my life, and I've made some money. I used to lose when I bet on others rolling. When I roll, I win. I'm patient now, and I wait for my spots, where there are empty tables for me to get into my groove, and not a lot of tourists to disturb me. And I only play low minimum tables.

You don't have to alter your rolls very much to overcome the tiny casino advantage when betting on the pass and come bets with odds.

If you can roll in a manner that only works 10 percent of the time to eliminate a couple of the 7's, then you're still changing the percentages enough to have an advantage over the casino.

My rolling works much more often than that. Not perfect, not every time, but effective enough to give me 10, 15 minute, and longer rolls. I play a simple strategy of one pass line bet and two come bets, all with double the $5 minimum odds. I top out at $45 on the table at any given time, and I only play a $5 minimum table.

I would love to show everyone my work, but it's very difficult and time consuming to wait for the right situation and most people don't want to watch for that long.

I have a few magician friends in Vegas who have witnessed this, but I don't think that they watched for long enough to say that there was a big difference. They just saw me make money. Not a whole lot, about $50 in a few minutes, but they got a taste.
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That a pair of dice can be controlled somewhat when they don't hit the rubber is hardly newsworthy.

I find when magicians take the time to tell us all how fabulous they are in a casino, and detail how many casinos they've been "banned" from, what they're actually doing is trying to advertise their magic act!
The magician being banned from the casino for their amazing skills is as old and boring a tale as a typical magic hack can tell.

Regardless, can you clarify that the story you're telling is that you occasionally don't hit the rubber, and at those times you execute a controlled shot such that you alter the odds ever so slightly further in your favor?
Or are you saying you can play for hours, never hit the rubber, and the Box doesn't say "boo" to you about it.
Or are you saying you can control any shot, whether it hits the rubber or not, and can do so consistently such that you maintain a constant advantage?

I ask the above questions because your post reads as 90% braggadocio, with no details to indicate what it is you're actually trying to say.

Also, perhaps could you clarify for us whether you're talking about a controlled shot, dice setting, or a combination of both.
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Come on Silver, fifty bucks! Top-notch pro.
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