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Answer the question at hand Craig Smile
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I was thinking about picking this one up...can you guys waht you mean about the actually performance being differnt, thanks-chris
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Chris - the performance in one of the demo videos is taught differently on the DVD, so people are wondering why the handling in the demo video isn't the same as it is on the DVD itself.

It's still a visually stunning trick when performed well, and there are quite a few things you can do with it. To be honest, at £95 (here in the UK) it's overpriced in my opinion, but it's a strong idea, and if Gregory Wilson can get that excited about it, that certainly says a lot!
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http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=2146
This is the demo in question.
Apparently no dupe coins were used in this demo.
This is inconsistant with my observations of this demo.
1, The demo is performed differently here than what is explained on the dvd that accompanies the gimmick.
2.David keeps his right arm bent in front of him while he is talking to Craig .When David puts his right hand behind his back, he goes from a bent position in front to a straight position by his side to a bent position behind his back.The movement is stilted not continuous.
This is an unnatural movement. When someone puts their hand behind their back from a bent position in front,they keep their elbow in a bent or slightly bent position throughout the movement. Ask anyone to try it and see.
3.After David sleeves the coin in his left sleeve,he doesn't move his arm into the position that accomodates the sleeve star's action. People who own this will know what I mean.
4 After showing the coin in his right hand,it seems that he then switches it with the one sleeved in his left sleeve to give it back to Craig.
There is another inconsistency that I can't mention, as it may be revealing something.
To me all of this indicates that two coins are used.
If my observations are incorrect please tell me.
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"3.After David sleeves the coin in his left sleeve,he doesn't move his arm into the position that accomodates the sleeve star's action. People who own this will know what I mean."

If you have a straight or slightly bended arm no further movement is necessary.
(if the force is with you of course Smile )
I think even your jacket will have influence on this!

For me it takes just a split second and the coin is in my other hand.

The stiff and static arm behind Davids back is the only thing that I am wondering about. But lets wait for the LADS Demo.

@fergie33

I think nobody has to worry about this little discussion here, even it's interesting and the situation confusing. Sleeve star does what it does brilliantly!
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On 2010-11-22 04:58, ArtIn wrote:

If you have a straight or slightly bended arm no further movement is necessary.
(if the force is with you of course Smile )
I think even your jacket will have influence on this!



You make a good point, however, if that were true, then the second movement wouldn't have been necessary and would be illogical to do. In the demo video, he "does" the second movement.
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What do you mean?
I think he just raised his arm slighly cause its part of his routine.
The problem is his other hand... If there is a problem at all
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So what happened with the Lecture Video?
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So what happened with the Lecture Video?


David and I have had gigs on all week but hopefully we will sort it this weekend.

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What happened to the demo video?

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We have been having some problems editing and rendering the footage. Coupled with myself and Dave being super busy actually performing and it's taking longer than we thought. As soon as it's on line I will le you guys know.

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I will have this in a week or so. I will try and post if its worth all the hype.
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Heard some good and bad reviews. Would love to hear it from the actual owner. Anyone?
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Thanks for the info craig.

@AaronishMagic

It's practical and the video shows how spectators preceive the effect.

I think everything is said in this thread..
I will definitley keep it as it offers some killer applications!
I don't refer to the obvious ones here! Think about "OneAhead"
The price is too high in my opinion..
But the effect, methods and technique is brilliant (proofed and reliable!)

If you compare it to a expansive 3Fly Coin Set..
well I would go for 3 ungimmicked signed coins and sleeve star again!

regards,
Martin
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I agree 100% with Martin. It's definitely overpriced, but also a very strong effect and has some very interesting possibilities.
I've seen it work and seen the item itself, and I wouldn't pay what they're asking for it honestly. The only reason I haven't purchased it is because of the price (a decision I'd made prior to seeing it in person.)
If you feel it's worth the money though, pick it up. It's a very cool item.
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Overpriced? This is a strange subject in magic, you can pay a fortune for a mentalism effect which would cost you pennies to make up, on the other hand you could pay pennies for a very well made effect which would cost you a fortune to make up!!

Sleeve-Star is sort of in the middle of the two, expensive if you don't use it (or don't intend to use it) but probably one of the best bargains in magic if you do use it. I've seen David use this and I've seen the awesome stuff you can do with this device, simple but devastating!

Many years ago I paid out loads for just one A4 sheet of instructions, it was for the toppit, a few years later I witnessed Pat Page do some of the most amazing magic I'd ever seen - with a toppit!

This is a utility device not a trick, tricks come and go, utility devices stay, this is an excellent utility device, and IMO worth every penny and more.

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Any news on the Lecture Video?
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It is pretty sad that Mr. Craig Petty made a promise to release a lecture to support his product and so far he has not done it. I guess if we do not see an answer before the end of this year then we can conlude that he is hiding behind the curtains waiting for this issue and post to be burried and do not spoil the sales during this season.

Unfortunately when this happens credibility diminsh, so now I wonder if everyhting he says in his product reviews is true.

I am sorry if my words are to harsh but it worst promising something that you cannot deliver to your potential customers.

Joaquin
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It is pretty sad that Mr. Craig Petty made a promise to release a lecture to support his product and so far he has not done it. I guess if we do not see an answer before the end of this year then we can conlude that he is hiding behind the curtains waiting for this issue and post to be burried and do not spoil the sales during this season.

Unfortunately when this happens credibility diminsh, so now I wonder if everyhting he says in his product reviews is true.

I am sorry if my words are to harsh but it worst promising something that you cannot deliver to your potential customers.

Joaquin


You know, its posts like the one above that really make me wonder if magic really is a community.

For your information myself and David were posting the footage from LADS not to support the sleeve star product (which already has a perfectly good DVD) but to give back to the magic community. Yes, it will also help people see that the trailer was not doctored in anyway but that was not the main reason it is going to be posted. Thousands of Sleeve Star's have been purchased and 99% of people have been more than happy so to say we were posting this footage to support the product is just wrong.

Calling my integrity into question is something I cannot sit back and allow to pass. In the last few weeks myself and David have both put FOR FREE on the internet our lectures which we could have charged for. There are other things we are planning on posting in the future which we again we could have charged for. If it was all about the money why did we do that. You jump on this thread and question my intergrity but I did not see you posting on the wizard fx thread thanking us for putting our lectures out there for free.

Regarding the Review Show you have no idea how much time and effort Dave and I put into that show. We spend two days a week putting it together not counting the time it takes to actually look at and learn the items we look at. I think I have proven time and again that we are not afraid to tell the truth about a product whatever the consequences. We have upset a lot of people and had some very angry phone calls from producers but that does not and will not stop us. Yes, the show is a lot of fun to put together but it still takes time and effort. The solution to YOU not being able to trust my reviews is simple - don't watch.

Dave is one of the busiest Corporate Entertainers in the UK and I run one of the largest children's entertainment agencies in the Middle of the UK as well as perform all over the UK. This is our busiest month of the year. Between performing, shooting the show and actually having a personal life we have struggled to find the time to edit the footage from LADS and get it on the site. If you cannot wait then you can believe what you want. For everyone else, we will have it up as soon as possible.

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Craig maybe it would be much easier to explain the discrepancies. If the video was not doctored, It wouldn't take a lot of time to explain the differences
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