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On 2010-09-08 18:38, acesover wrote:
Does anyone here really believe that the world would be a safer and maore peaceful place if the "United States of America" disbanded its Armed Forces and its weapons arsenal? When answering this question do not add your, "if the U.S. did not do this or that yada, yada, yada".


Safer for who?
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On 2010-09-08 20:06, MagicSanta wrote:
GDW, congrats, you have official made every leftest seem a bit more to the right.


Lol, I used to be so far left, I fell off the end.
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On 2010-09-08 18:38, acesover wrote:
Does anyone here really believe that the world would be a safer and maore peaceful place if the "United States of America" disbanded its Armed Forces and its weapons arsenal? When answering this question do not add your, "if the U.S. did not do this or that yada, yada, yada".


Safer for who?


If you have to ask there is no sense in trying to explain. Are you really that naive or are you just stirring the pot like some people I know. Wait I think I know the answer. Those of you who respond to a question like that are both of the aforementioned. Thanks for your insightful input.
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On 2010-09-08 20:06, MagicSanta wrote:
GDW, congrats, you have official made every leftest seem a bit more to the right.


Lol, I used to be so far left, I fell off the end.


Unfortunately you did not keep falling.
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On 2010-09-08 18:38, acesover wrote:
Does anyone here really believe that the world would be a safer and maore peaceful place if the "United States of America" disbanded its Armed Forces and its weapons arsenal? When answering this question do not add your, "if the U.S. did not do this or that yada, yada, yada".


How about if the united states just disbanded . . .


Please tell me you are not an American citizen. At least than I could understand your post...maybe.
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On 2010-09-08 22:09, gdw wrote:
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On 2010-09-08 20:06, MagicSanta wrote:
GDW, congrats, you have official made every leftest seem a bit more to the right.


Lol, I used to be so far left, I fell off the end.


Unfortunately you did not keep falling.


Ouch, a bit uncalled for perhaps?

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On 2010-09-08 18:38, acesover wrote:
Does anyone here really believe that the world would be a safer and maore peaceful place if the "United States of America" disbanded its Armed Forces and its weapons arsenal? When answering this question do not add your, "if the U.S. did not do this or that yada, yada, yada".


How about if the united states just disbanded . . .


Please tell me you are not an American citizen. At least than I could understand your post...maybe.


Are you saying you can (maybe) understand why non american's would advocate this, but not actual americans?

So, those who are watching the actions of america (not that a country can act) from the outside are excusable for having such an opinion, but if your an american you have to have blind un questioning patriotism?
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I know one of the best ways to not be a victim of a crime, is to not look like you are an easy victim to perpetrate a crime on.

I know one of the best ways to protect your house is to make it tougher to get into your house than others.

I know the best way to protect anything from being taken is to make it more expensive to steal it from you than what they want to steal is worth.

All of these examples involve a certain amount of deliberate preparation.
ALL of them are non aggressive ways of dealing with the problem we can agree right?

I should imagine that if you do not want to go to war, these things would seem to hold true as well.
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I know one of the best ways to not be a victim of a crime, is to not look like you are an easy victim to perpetrate a crime on.

I know one of the best ways to protect your house is to make it tougher to get into your house than others.

I know the best way to protect anything from being taken is to make it more expensive to steal it from you than what they want to steal is worth.

All of these examples involve a certain amount of deliberate preparation.
ALL of them are non aggressive ways of dealing with the problem we can agree right?

I should imagine that if you do not want to go to war, these things would seem to hold true as well.


I completely agree, except that none of those examples are things out your control of the individual, nor can they be used against the individual.

Also, none of those examples involved arming yourself, which, by the way, I do support as well. However, there is a difference between arming yourself for protection, and arming yourself in such a way that you are prepared to invade.

How many times has the usa used the idea that another country was making itself prepared for war as an excuse to invade? Iraq was not the first. So, building up and army and weapons can also paint a target on you.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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Really? Tell me how many times, and tell me exactly what the reason given for the invasion of Iraq.

Are you saying that no army removes the target? According to your form of arguement this is a logical assumption.
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Gdw quotes the following:

"Are you saying you can (maybe) understand why non american's would advocate this, but not actual americans?"


No "gdw" that is not what I am saying. I am saying that I hope you are not a citizen of "The United States of America" because if you are, you obviously do not care for any of those who have made the ultimate sacarifice so the likes of you can sit back and say the things you say and think you are clever. That is what I am saying. Is there anything there you do not understand?

I will say it again, "I hope you are not an American Citizen" and if you are. Shame on you and your kind for taking and not giving or showing respect.
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I know one of the best ways to not be a victim of a crime, is to not look like you are an easy victim to perpetrate a crime on.

I know one of the best ways to protect your house is to make it tougher to get into your house than others.

I know the best way to protect anything from being taken is to make it more expensive to steal it from you than what they want to steal is worth.

All of these examples involve a certain amount of deliberate preparation.
ALL of them are non aggressive ways of dealing with the problem we can agree right?

I should imagine that if you do not want to go to war, these things would seem to hold true as well.


I completely agree, except that none of those examples are things out your control of the individual, nor can they be used against the individual.

Also, none of those examples involved arming yourself, which, by the way, I do support as well. However, there is a difference between arming yourself for protection, and arming yourself in such a way that you are prepared to invade.

How many times has the usa used the idea that another country was making itself prepared for war as an excuse to invade? Iraq was not the first. So, building up and army and weapons can also paint a target on you.




Please use capital letters when writing USA (see above in your post) the same way you use them for Iraq even though it is the first letter of a sentence. You really are a nasty person and it shows.
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Gdw quotes the following:

"Are you saying you can (maybe) understand why non american's would advocate this, but not actual americans?"


No "gdw" that is not what I am saying. I am saying that I hope you are not a citizen of "The United States of America" because if you are, you obviously do not care for any of those who have made the ultimate sacarifice so the likes of you can sit back and say the things you say and think you are clever. That is what I am saying. Is there anything there you do not understand?

I will say it again, "I hope you are not an American Citizen" and if you are. Shame on you and your kind for taking and not giving or showing respect.


Wow, nothing like "people died for you to be able to be an ***, so show some respect." I suppose you think we'd all be speaking german if not for those men?
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I know one of the best ways to not be a victim of a crime, is to not look like you are an easy victim to perpetrate a crime on.

I know one of the best ways to protect your house is to make it tougher to get into your house than others.

I know the best way to protect anything from being taken is to make it more expensive to steal it from you than what they want to steal is worth.

All of these examples involve a certain amount of deliberate preparation.
ALL of them are non aggressive ways of dealing with the problem we can agree right?

I should imagine that if you do not want to go to war, these things would seem to hold true as well.


I completely agree, except that none of those examples are things out your control of the individual, nor can they be used against the individual.

Also, none of those examples involved arming yourself, which, by the way, I do support as well. However, there is a difference between arming yourself for protection, and arming yourself in such a way that you are prepared to invade.

How many times has the usa used the idea that another country was making itself prepared for war as an excuse to invade? Iraq was not the first. So, building up and army and weapons can also paint a target on you.




Please use capital letters when writing USA (see above in your post) the same way you use them for Iraq even though it is the first letter of a sentence. You really are a nasty person and it shows.


Actually, the ONLY reason I used the capital in iraq was because it was the start of a sentence. I'm surprised this is the first time anyone's called me on it. And, sorry, but no, I won't.
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That's not leftist... that's Texan Smile

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There's always the "Be nice to Hitler, and he'll be nice to you" philosophy.

As well as the "We had to destroy the village in order to save it, Sir" philosophy.
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On 2010-09-09 22:21, tommy wrote:
Do you think the USA will ever win a war?


There are no winners in war you fool. There are victims, there are casualties there is suffering and death, and to answer your next question before you ask, the answer is yes they are necessary. If you think otherwise you are a bigger fool than I thought.

I hope that answers your "baited question". And please do not ask me to elaborate. Just ponder it a while and I am sure you will understand.

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Really? Tell me how many times, and tell me exactly what the reason given for the invasion of Iraq.

Are you saying that no army removes the target? According to your form of arguement this is a logical assumption.


You know what, I have provided you with enough numbers, and you've either ignored them, or dismissed them as a minority and thus not worth acknowledging the issue behind them.
You have moved your self well beyond troll status.
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