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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
I figured it out. The preacher is Al Quada. They want to trigger violence so he is, as a closeted Muslim militant, giving them that trigger. It explains everything.
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Natural Mystic Special user Atlanta, GA 509 Posts |
Keith Ellison,a Muslim representative from Minnesota,was sworn into congress with one of America's oldest Qu'ran.
Guess whose library the Qu'ran was on loan from? Ans. Thomas Jefferson First Muslim in Congress to use historic Quran http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16455298/ Peace.
"You never change the existing reality by
fighting it. Instead, create a new model that makes the old one obsolete." -- R. Buckminster Fuller |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2010-09-09 16:09, Natural Mystic wrote: I'd love to see someone sworn in on the Jefferson Bible.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Scott Cram Inner circle 2678 Posts |
*YAWN*
Call me when spokespeople for Democrats or Muslims get beyond, "I don't like that completely legal and constitutional behavior on your part, so I'm going to do XYZ and have a fit so that people will appease me and shut you down..." I won't hold my breath. |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2010-09-09 17:11, Scott Cram wrote: That says he cancelled it because the planed "mosque" is being moved, but this says it is not being moved: http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/gr......19626808 That also brings up a good point. How come when someone proposes burning a book, people claim it will provoke extremists and put the troops in danger, but when a whole BUNCH of people protest a "mosque" (cultural centre) there seems to be no outcry about the backlash from extremists citing it as further proof of the threat to islam.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
WAIT A MINUTE!!!!! The troops are not in danger in the first place? Hmmm interesting position LOL.
Come on. As I said it is certainly in bad taste to burn anything anyone feels a sacred attatchment to. Yes that is the way to put it I think. It is certainly not against the law to have bad taste. (I will simply reference most of the styles from the 1970's as proof.) The cultural center (which has a mosque) is probably in bad taste in that spacific location. (That is an opinion, but all "taste" is.) The idea that the guy in Florida gets SO MUCH press is simply stupid. Hey him and his 50 followers could have burnt a book ten a day every day and nobody had to know about it right? Why all the hubbub bub? Let the 50 of them be as dumb as they like, but until someone sends a TV camera to cover it or acts outraged it would probably not have been that big an issue. I think it was a partly created issue.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
I found Holder's and Obama's comments disturbing. As the AG, Holder's primary message should be in legal support of his First Amendment rights. I also profoundly disagree with the president's characterization that the burning would have gone against our American core values. Protected extremely unpopular free speech is on the short list of American core values. I wonder if we would have gotten the same comment from Obama if a Muslim group planned a flag burning. I get the impression that Obama's perspective is that American values including offending other Americans, but not offending others. "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" would have been a better message from the White House.
On the other hand, by the way, I found Hillary Clinton's public comments entirely appropriate, given her official capacity. Also, FWIW, though I'm not a flag burner (or a Koran burner), I also think that flag burning is an illustration of some of our core values.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I wish they would engage our enemies the way he engages and goes after pollitical advisaries. The would would be a much better place.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2010-09-09 17:35, Dannydoyle wrote: Did I say that? Not trying to be confrontational, just asking if it came across like that or if you are just pointing out the obvious that they are already in crap loads of danger? Quote:
On 2010-09-09 17:35, Dannydoyle wrote: Yes, yes it does have a mosque. It also has a 9/11 memorial. I (personally) don't think it's in bad taste at all. In fact quite the opposite, to say it is in bad taste would be to implicate islam and muslims as a whole in 9/11. To be accepting of it being there is to show you are the bigger "people" and recognize the difference between freedom to believe, and extreme actions. Mind you, islam, as well as chritianity and many other religions do have explicit passages encouraging violence against those that don't share your belief. Quote:
On 2010-09-09 17:35, Dannydoyle wrote: Well, that would be kind of the point of what he was doing. Isn't that the point of all (acts of) protests, to get attention? I do agree, however, that the "threat" idea, and the attention on that is inflated.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2010-09-09 17:47, LobowolfXXX wrote: I agree, though not on a country having values, but in regards to Obama's comments, though I had not heard/read them yet. Seems to go completely against what he said about the ground zero mosque/cultural centre, where he stuck stricly to defending their right to build it.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
The memorial is in bad taste. A pretty good percentage of people think so. Why not just move it? Why GIVE someone that sort of thing to complain about in the first place? If it really IS about "getting along" or whatever then why not just move it? With over 2000 of em in the country nobody cares. It is all about location, location, location.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Scott Cram Inner circle 2678 Posts |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2010-09-09 18:03, Dannydoyle wrote: How is the memorial in bad taste? I may have missed something about the memorial. As for the rest, well, if a good percentage of the people in my neighbourhood are against gay marriage and I want to live build a house with my same sex partner on property I own, I guess I should just do it elsewhere then? Why should they be the one's to go elsewhere? It's the other people who have the problem, but guess what, they don't own that piece of property. I guess we should just segregate the muslims away from the people in new york just so that we don't offend any one. Of course, all the crap people are doing complaining about the mosque probably offends the hesk out of a lot of muslims too. Who's offendedness gets priority?
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
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On 2010-09-09 18:03, Dannydoyle wrote: What memorial are you referring to? I assume you are referring to the proposed Muslin community center which is NOT a memorial any more then your church is. Quote:
A pretty good percentage of people think so. Assuming I am correct in what you are referring to, it is the opinion of less then half of the people who live there. It is also not the opinion of the city planning commission who are elected by those people to make those decisions. Quote:
Why not just move it? Are you going to pony up the money to buy an equally suitable site? Quote:
Why GIVE someone that sort of thing to complain about in the first place? ' Because there are bigoted ***s who will complain about a black guy moving onto their block. It doesn't mean the black guy should have to move, does it. This is america, isn't it? land of the free, and all, where everyone and everyone's religion is supposed to be equal? Quote:
If it really IS about "getting along" or whatever then why not just move it? Because WE should not be bigotted ***s. We should be better then that.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Lobo:
I understand your comment about free speech being an american value. As the son of writers and journalists trust me., its close to my heart. But ANOTHER american value is supposed to be religious freedom and tolerance. And purposefully and publicly doing something disrespectful of another's religion should be at least an eyebrow raiser. (See my earlier comment about farting in an elevator.) To bring it closer to home, I think if a muslin group decided to get a crucifix and make a big show of publicly peeing on it, we'd be equally offended and say it was un-American behavior.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yada yada yada. It is in bad taste to burn the book, but not bad taste to do this. Got it.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Actually this is quite consistant. Its in bad taste to show disrespect for another persons religion.
Be that by publicly trashing their holy symbols OR by saying they cant pray in your neighborhood. Thank you for drawing the line between these two bigoted things so clearly. OR do you believe that, since Hitler was a christian and used Christianity to justify his crimes, that we should kick all the churches out of Isreal as being "in bad taste."?
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Terry Jones is going to go to NYC and hang out with an Iman, which means after that he'll announce his conversion to Islam....
From now on the street slang for a marijuana cigarette is 'Koran', so when you dope smokers want to light up say "Let's go burn a koran" and then, like the term 'street magic' soon it will lose all meaning. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2010-09-09 18:44, Cyberqat wrote: Do we look into the background of those who want to do the building? I can only imagine this answer LOL. 3 2 1 GO~!
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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