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Cris Johnson Loyal user Niagara Falls, NY 248 Posts |
I skimmed thru parts of this thread and things that popped out to me was "not being able to let specs examine the deck." SO WHAT?
I'm a full time pro and since I went full time, I can NOT remember a SINGLE time anyone ever wanted to examine my deck. It's a dead issue as long as YOU do not make a big deal. If you "challenge" people or come off like an ass, it might happen. Back to the effect - I was at a family function last night and the guy who distributes these (from Jamestown NY) met me (a very nice Roger Nicot) and he performed it. VERY nice effect, clean as hell. The strengths: 1. ANY card can merely be THOUGHT of and revealed to have the red back. 2. Handling is natural 3. Resets instantly Weaknesses: 1. You really can't use this deck for other effects 2. You need a table surface for the spread (might be a problem at restaurants and / or corp banquets when there's a lot of stuff, dishes, on tables) to me, when I do strolling, I'm only with a group for around 7 minutes, so the idea of only one card effect appeals to me. He tipped the method which I suspected, but only because I am in the know. To make it yourself would be a pain for one reason I won't share here. Because of the special pack, specs will not figure this out. Great effect, very clean. Cris Posted: Sep 18, 2010 10:21am Oh, one more HUGE strength to me - since you're looking at the card spread, NO calculations or mental stuff like the original Brainwave. A friend of mine LOVES original brainwave, but he whiffs it every time because of the (admittedly simple) calculation to get the correct card. Ultimate Brainwave is just that - a superior version of Brainwave. |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
Umm..there are calculatons with the ID, but none with the Brainwave that I know of...Mark the Aces and 7's and you can casually spread to the proper area, then count to the right card.
I couldn't calculate and perform at the same time if I were sober OR drunk. I'd look like I was calculating! So it goes, that's what makes the greats great.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Maybe someday he will figure out a triple decker and then we could do an ID in a similar way
Meanwhile, I did order a mandolin ID cause all of you love this illusion so much. Posted: Sep 18, 2010 2:05pm So here's a thought. Rather then reversing the card in the ID routine, how would it play if you had the spectator make an imaginary X on it with an imaginary marker? You could build a deck to do this with the DD that would basically be the same as the UB.
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6127 Posts |
I never had a problem finding the right card with brainwave. I just a metter of doing the preparation.
I always made up my own ID and BW decks, as well as many others. Don't see this being anymore problem. It just takes time. With that said, I still prefer Brainwave.
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Cris Johnson Loyal user Niagara Falls, NY 248 Posts |
OK, you're right, it's not "calculations," just counting...but my friend still whiffs it.
Nevertheless, I could see myself whiffing the count in the heat of the action (drunk spec, loud party, etc) so to me, Ultimate Brainwave is a great solution. I will, however, easily concede that the original Brainwave is a classic for a reason. First time I saw it performed was by Max maven, so naturally it was awesome. Anyhoo, Ultimate Brainwave is a worthy next evolution. Cris |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10794 Posts |
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On 2010-09-16 22:17, Ustaad wrote: So the other deck is a MD I'm assuming yes?
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
Saysold, the deck that is spread on the pool table is a regular, ungaffed deck - if that is what you are referring to.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2010-09-11 02:23, Ustaad wrote: So, precisely what is the difference between a "pre-prepared" gimmicked deck and a "prepared" gimmicked deck. Isn't the idea of a "pre-prepared" gimmicked deck a redundancy?
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
If you want to be able to place a blue-backed card into the red-backed deck, for example, then look at "Boldwave."
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On 2010-09-28 02:25, saysold1 wrote: Yes.
MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET there is no MAGIC.
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10794 Posts |
Thanks Ustaad!
Yes it was your reference that I was referring to clever man!
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chrismatt Special user Why would you read any of my 978 Posts |
If you want to do a Brainwave-type effect with regular cards, you should begin your journey with "Oddity," a 70-year-old trick by Edward Marlo. You can find it in Early Marlo (at page 62). ANY card can be named and it is the only odd-backed card in a regular deck of just 52. And it's done with minimal sleight of hand.
Good luck! CM
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On 2010-09-28 22:58, chrismatt wrote: I have read the effect. The effect is simple & straightforward. Clever effect. Chris, Thanks for the reference. Though technically speaking the cards may be called 'regular cards' but the prepared deck for the effect doesn't fall in the category of a normal deck. P.S. In my first post on this thread I have given my personal liking for use of a normal deck of cards along with THAT one extra card so as to help perform the classic Brainwave deck effect. Hence I keep referring to/ suggesting a normal deck of cards. Sorry I am not IN for a debate on this. Hint: With THAT one extra card one can either use a Red or a Blue back deck - It's independent of color of the deck.
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El Mystico Special user 573 Posts |
I, too have used a Brainwave for years and never once has someone asked to see the deck.
It is one of those curiosities; whether people are too dumbfounded to think clearly, or whether they cannot think how a trick deck could achieve the end, I don't know. There is a classic Scarne effect, detailed in The Odds Against Me, but explained in a Garcia book, which could be achieved with this deck. the Scarne effect was done with an (almost) regular deck...but if people don't suspect a gaffed deck, this approach could be better.... |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10794 Posts |
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On 2011-11-09 13:49, El Mystico wrote: I agree - it's the same with 1st cousin ID. Nobody ever asks to see the deck. I like Whit Hayden's classic presentation for BW best and that is what I use. It is a killer.
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
I can't remember if I missed this thread before, or if I failed to spot that the effect is PERFECT for my BW presentation! Well, I just ordered "Ultimate Brainwave" (and "Get Sharky", since I've spent so much time waffling on the GS threads!)
I really hope I just didn't see the thread before, because today, as soon as I saw the effect, I knew it's 100% what will make my presentation of this humble and beautiful effect even stronger. I do love my card tricks, and I honestly think that despite years in the trenches working with cards, "Ultimate Brainwave" will be one of my strongest card effects. I currently use BW along with "Universal Impression", and I'm sure those in the know will immediately see how the combination of these effects could be devastating! Now, I have to consider the practical matter of different card backs. I do think, bearing in mind the great success of Card-Shark, that it would make sense for me to gradually switch all my card effects to the Phoenix Decks. This has been my main problem with the Card-Shark decks from day one. As a die-hard Bicycle guy, it's a tough decision to switch allegiance to another design. And it will take quite some work and possibly cash, to import all my card effects to Phoenix. But I guess it makes a lot of sense to work with the decks made for magicians, rather than those for Casinos and card-players. The exciting thing is, that I now see the "doors are open" for new effects, manufacturing possibilities, etc. So, fair play to Christian and the Card-Shark team. I think I see now that they are likely to become the first choice for cards among magicians Worldwide. It was a treacherous and unsure path to pursue. But no doubt they have proved their quality and commitment. Many great reviews, and I now have no worries placing my first order with them. No worries - heck, I'm excited as hell to get that UB deck in my hands!!! Doug So, I finally got sold on the Phoenix Decks with a Brainwave Deck? Of course, it's the simple stuff that really plays. |
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afknight Elite user 499 Posts |
Hi Doug
I agree that this deck is tremendous and I've used it to enhance several card effects that I perform. I like the Phoenix design and the breadth of other "specialty" cards they make as well. afknight |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
I only wish they were more widely available. Here in the UK they go for an astonishing 22.75 Pounds. They are just too expensive IMO. Although the more you buy the cheaper they get. 3 for 2 is the way to go.
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theinternetguru Elite user I hacked the Café but I still only have 426 Posts |
I received my Ultimate Brain wave a couple days ago, and have already had opportunities to perform it. This is, without question, the ultimate version of this effect. As an instant up-close mentalism effect for strolling, this is a must-have. I need to pick up an invisible deck with the Phoenix backs so that I have a consistent set of cards for walkaround.
The only negative to this, which must be acknowledged, is that the double decker cards do not feel like normal cards. They are (obviously) very thin, and bend like paper. With more rigidity, they would feel more natural. What this means is that you must take care to perform this and not allow the spectator to play with the cards. E.g., have them point to a card, lay it down on the table, then turn it over yourself for the reveal. Any spectator who is familiar with cards would immediately notice that these cards are thin and flimsy, were they to handle one. All that said, a little audience management in how you perform the effect is all that is needed. I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this. |
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TonyPorter Regular user 180 Posts |
I really like the look of this.
Although I have been waiting for well over a month for some Phoenix decks from CardShark (via Vanishing Inc.) so I think I'll wait and make sure they arrive before ordering anything else. |
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