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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
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It CAN point to disparity in the cost of machinery to the cost of manual labor. This is not uncommon fora more recently;y industrialized country. That machinery may well have to coem from over-seas, more expensive markets. However it also CAN simply point to a more volatile demand in the market. People can be laid off, machinery cannot. Even if a machine can do the job of 1,000 workers,if you don't have WORK for a thousand workers, its not necessarily more cost effective. Quote:
2) There's no way to do that kind of repetitive manual labor at that speed without incurring high incidences of carpal tunnel syndrome. No humane system would organize labor in such a way. You don't KNOW how long he keeps that up, if there are exercise breaks, or anything else about the work environment. You are simply making an assumption based on a preconception. You also don't know what his other options are. We have workers in this country that work in rather extreme conditions that are almost guaranteed to produce injuries that will eventually make them unable to work... we call that "professional sports."
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
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On 2010-09-12 12:57, landmark wrote: It may. The fact of the matter is that an industrialization period has to come before a post-industrial period. And if you never have one you will never get to the other. The typical p[atttern is.. (a) < Manufacturing comes to an economy because there is cheap labor (b)The increase in productivity of the economy generates more wealth in general and stands of living rise. (c) As standards of living rise, people start demanding more from their employment and the cost of labor goers up. (d) At some point, cost of labor stops being a competitive advantage, but *hopefully* by then you have developed a real industrial infrastructure to move you forwards. (e) You send you manufacturing elsewhere and it starts all over again. if you don't like that cycle, the OTHER solution is to share your wealth right now with those that don't have it yet. If you aren't willing to do that then they need to develop the infrastructure to create it themselves and this is genrally the first step.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Btw... Im sure assembling card decks for years on end without rest can cause some incidence of carpal tunnel.
Lifting vegetable crates on the docks of new york did in my grandfather's back, at which point he found another kind fo work to do. But I never heard him complain about having been in the green grocery business. he was quite proud of that, as he was of everything else he did to make a living.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Hey! I was a produce guy as a kid! Loved it.
I want to see if anyone here will even remotely say that any brand of Chinese made cards are their favorites? Anyone? My wife bought a deck once and I opened it and sat it down (I was going to mercury fold 'em) and the deck literally, before my eyes, warped, the seems opened, and the cards started to bend....great quality. |
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On 2010-09-12 15:59, Cyberqat wrote: I'm sure your grandfather was an admirable man, as was mine come to think of it. At any rate, whether he complained or not, the crates weren't GOOD for him. That's why he went to other work. And while on the macro scale, he may have been some useful cog in the raising of standards, without respect for a workingman's body, the whole cycle only starts up again as you said.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
No, he went to other work because he physically couldn't do that work any more.
My point, I guess, was just that, as the decadent spoiled children of those hard workers of the past, we have the luxury of worrying about those things. But that's a luxury that only comes AFTER the necessities of food, clothing and shelter have become assumed. In developing nations, those issues are still often paramount to the workers and even a job that is potentially injurious is better then no job at all. Keep in mind that, even in this country, some people are still doing physically taxing and dangerous jobs. Coal mining and high-steel work both come to my mind.
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