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Hondo Regular user 147 Posts |
Hello guys,
We have contacted the distributor to ask every dealer to remove Mr. Harlan's quote. As far as we know, The Corner DVD was released before Touch. However, why does no one notice the uploading date of Touch clip on Youtube? It was uploaded on 2010.9.2. Check it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsT7pyjzxk And the effect Kiss was first saw on Youtube in a clip named "Sans Mind Corner :: Sept Issue :: 2010" which was uploaded between 9.13 and 9.15. (The clip was removed from Youtube, so I'm not sure the exact date. But I'm sure the clip of Touch came earlier than Kiss.) It's impossible and unfair to say that Hanson stole the effect from SM Productionz unless he got a time machine. Hondo |
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3053 Posts |
Gotta hand it to the boss, he's definitely got the work on this one.
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HusssKarson Loyal user Ca, US 265 Posts |
Couldn't find a lot of their previous clips on Youtube. After I got Tsay's color changing effect a few years back, I searched up and bought many of his stuff during that time. Brilliant stuff! Just to be fair, I got one of his 2004 lecture note off ebay still sitting on my shelf, it has that rubber band trick with a few different variations on the application and setup. Gave it a quick read and it has popping the band onto spectator's hand, onto a drink, and onto a deck to find a lost card. Set ups in instruction are from palm position, from wrist position, and from a deck to spectator's hand (I must have missed this one, very cool!). There are some interesting displays on both sides of the hand as well. The last section of the trick says (Refer to book 'Incomplete' , p89). I suppose it's a book predates the lecture note?
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Hondo Regular user 147 Posts |
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On 2011-04-13 17:37, HusssKarson wrote: Hello Huss, Thank you for sharing this. We also heard about the book "Incomplete" from SM Productionz. We are still trying to get the book since Sep. 2010. We searched this book in every on-line magic store and found nothing by googling the key words. We also saw nothing mentioned about Hanson Chien or Touch in The Corner DVD as the video of Touch was released earlier than the product. And that's why we didn't give any credit to Will Tsai and SM Productionz but only Muto hata and Joe Rindfleisch. Hondo |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
YOU SHOULD ALSO REMOVE THE EFFECT IT IS NOT YOURS
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HusssKarson Loyal user Ca, US 265 Posts |
Hello Hondo, I've been searching for the book for a while too but had no luck. A friend got one and recommended it. Emailed the company and apparently it was discontinued quite a few years ago. On the other hand, judging from the lecture note I got, his was released years ahead of yours. I see no reason why they would credit your trick if it's apparently the same trick but release in later date. However, I do think it'll be great to see you resolve this issue soon, I like your Pass Trainer very much, hope to see more stuff from you.
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
I was shown this effect by Kostya Kimlat at, I think, the first 'The Session' here in the UK. I was shown it with the hands vertical and the band would seemingly penetrate through the hands and end up on the person's wrist. Changing it to be done horizontally does not make it a different effect. I don't know where Kostya got it from but if it wasn't from Hanson Chien then it is not his.
Someone on this forum is blasted because of his attention to crediting detail. However, this thread highlights how important it is to know where magic effects come from.
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Kevin Schaller Loyal user Germany 264 Posts |
This DVD is just awesome! You'll find many stunning routines and you definitive are going to use one! There's a difference between Touch and Kiss and I prefer Touch - the secret move is done easier and faster!
Well done!
'Geniuses can make the world a better place or make it fall apart alongside their own minds.” - Kevin Schaller
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Touch is not his effect. no crediting no purchase
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
All I ask is Hanson to step- up and say this effect already exsists.
he may of come up with touch on his own be he refuses to say it alrerady out there. This is the reasion I will not support his dvd vinny |
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Alan Rorrison V.I.P. 2494 Posts |
God knows where I original learnt this effect but it wasnt form Hanson. Its as old as the hills as far as I'm aware.
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Hondo Regular user 147 Posts |
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On 2011-05-28 16:03, vinsmagic wrote: No credit? Are you kidding? There is a chapter named "Credit" in the DVD, and we even credit your name, Mr. Vinny. For the effect Touch, we credit Joe Rindfleisch and Muto Hata. The reason that we didn't credit Will Tsai is because we found no info about his book named Incomplete, and SM doesn't provide us any proof or photos of this book until now. Do you credit the man if someone tells you that Liquid Band is his original but provides no proof, Mr. Vinny? |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
What I am sayingis not until now do I see any dcredit for the effect touch.
yes your handling is different and I like your handling. but the effect wa ws done in a vertical position that I learned about 8 years ago. I do not know who the creator is and I am sure it is not joe rindfleich,,,, and it is the same methiod as your touch, so at leasty say that this method preceeded yous I am now glad at least you have credited others this is all I wanted to hear form you thank you \ vinny Joe's effect the band jumps to his pinky but handling very similar |
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Kevin Schaller Loyal user Germany 264 Posts |
I've performed TOUCH for Henry Evans a few days ago. Sadly you can't see the effect happen, but you can see his great reaction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjXuyQsRW7A One more time: I LOVE this DVD
'Geniuses can make the world a better place or make it fall apart alongside their own minds.” - Kevin Schaller
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
Hi, for those who have the DVD Hanson explains about the different types of rubber bands to use and for what particular effect you are going to perform etc. I live in the UK and was wondering if someone could please advise me where I can but the best type of rubber band to perform 'Touch'. I have tried normal bands but they are not elasticated enough for the effect.
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Alan Rorrison V.I.P. 2494 Posts |
Wh smiths standard 19s do the job
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5203 Posts |
The effects on the DVD is great. Now I need to practise.
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dan84 Loyal user 251 Posts |
It looks great although my character/persona when I perform would not wear a dozen rubber bands on his wrist, is this a consideration?
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hellohiashley New user 50 Posts |
Hey all,
have had this dvd for a while now btu never watched it, is there any particular size bands you need? What size works best for you? Thanks! |
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Magic Midnight New user 29 Posts |
I just bought "Touch" yesterday and I am really enjoying the effects and content. The majority of the tricks are on par with Marcus Eddie's "Stairway" and "Raw Linkage."
Overall, I am very satisfied with the purchase and it will give me more reason to wear those rubber bands everywhere I go. My favorite effects so far are "Touch" and "Escape"...they can be combined for a great two-step routine. For $30 you get 10 effects...it seems like a great deal to me. Hellohiashley, Hanson talks about 3 types of rubber bands; however, I am able to perform each trick with my standard #19 rubber bands I bought from Office Depot. |
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