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Has any one had funny stories about dumb luck. In casinos, home games at night, big wins. Any stories at all.
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My uncle turned $50 into $20,000 in Reno playing BJ in one night. He plays strictly on instinct (proudly so) and laughs at all the "stupid" mathematically based strategies I've tried to show him. It frustrates the hell out of me.

Another memorable moment was at a home game of hold'em. I was dealt pocket 6's, and two 6's turned up on the flop, making me a four of a kind. Here's the funny part -- a fifth 6 came up on the river. Somehow that card got mixed into the deck we were using. It was an honest mistake from having a couple decks lying around. It was an absolutely hysterical moment when I showed my hand.

A couple years ago I was at a casino with a close friend who I just taught how to play BJ. This was his first time ever at a casino. We were at the table (he was at first base) and he had $15 left to play with, the table minimum was $10. He placed a $10 bet (2 x $5), got his cards (face up), and noticed he only had a $5 chip left.

He realized this wouldn't be enough to play a next hand if he lost, so he grabbed one of the $5 chips in play. He didn't realize he wasn't allowed to do this and didn't think much of it. The dealer saw nothing as she was slightly turned while dealing out the rest of the cards (she must have been new). My friend immediately realized he made a mistake and left only a $5 bet in play (at a $10 minimum table), so he placed his 2 $5 chips on top of the $5 in play, making it $15. My friend (with absolutely no experience with such a thing) got away with pinching and capping his bet.

After this happened and while it was my friends turn to play his hand, an old lady sitting at 3rd base (with her husband standing behind her) retracted a large stack of chips that was in play with her hand (it must have been about 10 chips). When it was her move, the dealer realized she had no chips in play but was dealt cards. The dealer called over the pit boss and remembered her large bet which she was now guarding with her arm. The dealer took the stack back and resumed play. The dealer and the lady exchanged words but it was in Vietnamese, which I don't know. The dealer made 21 and we all lost.

I didn't see the lady pinch her bet (I was too consumed trying to process what my friend just got away with) but I figured out what happened afterward. My guess is she saw my friend pinching his bet so she went instinctive and did it herself when she realized her cards were bad. She probably would have gotten away with it if she left at least one chip. This dealer was weak!

I have a couple other stories but I'm not much of a raconteur, and they aren't the type that come out well in writing anyway.
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I was on my way BACK to the ATM (bad night) at one of the Indian casino's here in Cali when some tourist asked me how to play the Poker Machine..... I told him to stick a 20 in and bet Max (5 quarters) and hit Deal..... it dealt him a Royal frikkin Flush for a Grand! Bad night gettin worse!

After takin bad beat after bad beat that night I gave up and sat down at a dollar machine to wait for my wife to finish up some cheesy game and without paying any attention (max bet, max bet, max bet) I hit it for 2400 bucks! Bad night got much better! FWIW, I HATE slot machines!
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That's the best way to play those *** vacuum machines. The long term probably will indefinitely get you, so max it out at the high roller machines and hope for the best with the short term fluctuation. I've played $5 worth and that's the most they'll get out of me.
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I actually got on a "roll" on those suckers that lasted about 8 months! They had just opened one of the first Indian Casinos and obviously had the slots set pretty loose cuz it almost seems like they were broken! Waiting around for blue haired old ladies to croak or blow their SS check so you could get a machine was a grind but worth it in the end! Hit a couple fatty's toward the end and figured I may as well head to LV and hit a medium size Progressive right off followed by a fatty on a $5 machine but then hit my jinx..........

I prefer cards!
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Ah, right. I forgot about the Progressives.
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Mickey,

What game do you play? Clearly it's video poker, but which version?

Jason
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First time I ever went to a casino with my wife was shortly after Central City opened up to gambling here in Colorado.

We were young and impressed with pretty much everything. The lights, sounds, excitement... But were intimidated to play the "scary" tables.

Being young and not knowing anything about casino games we lost everything at the slot machines including (thanks to ATM machines conveniently located everywhere) our rent money!!

Having $5 bucks to our name my wife decides what the hell, it can't screw us anymore than we already are. She sat down at a black jack table. I'll be ***ed if she didn't sit there and win back EVERYTHING we spent!

After recouping our losses she stands up and heads for the shuttle. I begged to keep going and even asked for some handouts; but no my wife is smarter and has more will power than that so we left, paid our rent and now will be celebrating 20 years of marriage next month!
Never forget to dream!

Nathan Smith
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On 2010-10-20 05:48, JasonEngland wrote:
Mickey,

What game do you play? Clearly it's video poker, but which version?

Jason


Jason,

My story above was about regular ol idiot bet suck ya dry dollar slots! I've only played video poker a dozen or so times and have no clue what I was playing!

I'd assume the odds on video poker are similar slots (Random number generators)? I suppose with having some choice (hold /draw) you may increase your odds some? I honestly don't know!
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MIckey,

I see. You opened your story by talking about giving advice to another player that went on to hit a royal flush. That's why I thought you were talking about video poker the entire time. They also have progressive video poker machines, so when you switched to talking about slots I didn't pick up on it.

Certain video poker machines can be played with a return of over 100%. In other words, with proper (near-perfect) play, you can actually make money playing video poker in the long run. It's a serious grind, and only a few people do it, but it can be done. It's not for me though. I'd rather not spend 40 - 50 hours per week in a casino just to make $60,000 a year.

You mentioned having some choice in video poker. Yes, people making mistakes are responsible for a lot of the money made by these machines, but some of them are set to the point where even perfect play will NOT return 100% of the money put in. These are by far the more common machines. You really have to look for the ones that have he higher payouts (on a Jacks or Better machine look for one that pays 9 units for a full house and 6 units for a flush) to make a living at the game.

The average player will lose money even when playing a machine that pays out over 100%. Just because the game is theoretically beatable doesn't mean that all (or even many) players will actually do so. It's just like blackjack. Played perfectly it's a beatable game to this day, but the average tourist loses money at the game and is just there to gamble.

Incidentally, it's theoretically possible to make a living at a game that only pays back 99.5%. It involves joining the slot clubs that offer some sort of monthly or annual "1% back" deal. They'll refund 1% of your total action for a given time period. This allows a player to play a game that would normally be unbeatable in the long run.

Put $100,000 through a machine in a week and the machine gives you back $99,500 on average. But then the slot club refund comes along and you're cut a check for $1,000. You've just made $500 for the week. If you're playing a game that returns 100.77% (this is possible on certain machines with proper play) of the money you put into it and you can make $1000 - 2000 per week. Add it all up and you can make a living playing the game (such as it is).

I'd still rather spend my time doing something more fun, and less like factory work.

Jason
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My favorite good beat story is I was playing in a limit game and had Ace/10. Flop was 3-3-10 and I bet and was raised. For some reason I called and the turn was another 10 so I beat again (figuring he had a set of 3's and I just sucked out on him) The river was another 10 giving me quad ten's.

Turns out he flopped quad 3's and I went runner runner to make quad ten's to beat him. The good news is that this qualified for the bad beat and we both made a lot of money.

Gil Scott
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Two stories from the pre-Moneymaker boom days...in this case, both took place in the early 90's.

The Good: I had a few friends who were poker players. In fact, we'd met one day before a little 3-table tournament at the Regency/Bell (I forget which it was at the time, but it's the same place) in California, and the day we met, we came in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. Anyway, they were making a Vegas trip one weekend, and invited me to come along, but I didn't have the money. I was kinda bummed, but what can you do? I was playing $1-$2 7-card stud at the Bicycle Casino, and losing most of my buy-in, when I made aces full, and lost to four of a kind, for about $1500 in the bad beat jackpot. Then the floor man tells me I've qualified for a freeroll tournament - open to everyone involved in a jackpot hand. They ran one freeroll every month, and this was actually the last one before they discontinued it. I hit the jackpot at 10:30 p.m. on June 30th; if I wasn't the last qualifier, I was darn close. The freeroll was the next day...I was 4th out of 166 players for another $1500. I bought into a $15-$30 stud game, and the upshot is, when my boys came back 2 1/2 days after I couldn't afford to join them, I was walking around the Bike with close to five grand in my pocket. Nice weekend!

The Bad and The Ugly: Playing the 1/2-Stud, 1/2-Hold'Em tournament at the Bike's annual "Winning O' The Green" tournament. 191 entries, 16 get paid, first prize is about $45,000. I'd been playing pretty much all day...maybe 8 or 9 hours of play not counting the breaks...down to the final 22, short stacked for the size of the bets, but a lot of people are. So, not hopeless, but I have to get something going. We're playing Hold'Em, and I pick up pocket tens. One guy calls the big blind, I raise (it's limit, not no limit), and everyone folds but the caller. The flop is something like T-6-2, no flush possible. Just about as beautiful as I could hope for. He checks, and I bet the last of my chips. He thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks...and calls.
He put me on a pair, and he called with AK, hoping to hit a higher pair. So, it's trips against no pair to almost certainly put me in the money and give me some room to maneuver. Here's the sick thing: If you let him pick his turn card, he'd be drawing dead! He's hoping for an ace or a king, and if he gets one he can't win the pot (if he makes trips on the river, I'd make a full house). But he doesn't get his ace or king...instead:
Turn: Q
River: J

An ace high straight for him, and I'm out the door, stunned and staggering. Almost 20 years ago, and I still wake up screaming sometimes.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2010-10-20 16:35, CardCutter wrote:
Nat that is amazing winning your in entire rent back! Happy anniversary


Thanks CardCutter; I wish I could take credit, but it was my wife;as the saying goes...
if it weren't for bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all
Never forget to dream!

Nathan Smith
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Jason,

I see how my post was confusing, my bad!

Hey, thanks so much for taking the time to break down video poker like ya did, very informative!

Mick
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