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CardTrix
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This may not come of anything, but I just want to pass the idea around and see what others think.

I was at a comedy club Saturday night, the performers were great. In the act was a comedy magician, who was hilarious. Immediately following him was a ventriliquist who worked off of the magicians act somewhat...

I started thinking "what if the two acts were joined together?" Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? Could it be done and would their be any real benefit to magic...since they are both forms of entertainment?

I'm just curious as to what you all think of this...any ideas on if or why this would or wouldn't work?
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The Idea is very intriguing. I could see the possibility of a magician turning the show over to the puppet and making a dummy out of the magician. Smile
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It has been done many times by many people, including myself. Col. Bill Boley has a booklet, "Ventrilo-magic" available from Maher Studios in Littleton, CO if you're interested in learning more about this.
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Also my book "Ventriloquism" published by Sterling Publishers in New York had a chapter on the use of magic when manipulating your partner. It was mainly magic that could be performed one-handed like silk productions, miser's dream, a comedy mindreading act with the dummy blindfolded. " For the love of....
what's the person's name?" Unfortunately ,the book is now out of print. You might be able to obtain it in a second hand bookstore.
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I use ventriloquism as a "stage whisper" to my onstage spectator-helper.

At one point, I place a giant bug onto their back and I vent "It's okay, I put something on your back. I'll get it off of you in a second." It's amazing how well they play along when they get this little tidbit of info. I think it really makes them feel as if they're part of the show.
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Yes, having the magician be the dummy and having the dummy actualy become the magician and do the magic has been done. And i dont mean having the magician do stuff while the puppet is explaining what is happening and going to happen. I mean the puppet doing all the work (hand moving, holding stuff, etc). If u want more info ask.
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Vent and Magic is a Nearly Normal Combination that I have done for years.

An example is Nigel and I start of with a sort of Vito Lupo meets Jay Johnson bit.

It is an expanded balls from both our mouths with vanishes and color changes.

I end the bit with Nigel singing Magic Man
a parody of Billy Joels Piano Man, while
I play the melody on the harmonica.

One of the lines is "It was short and it was sweet and I knew it complete, when I wore a younger clowns nose.

I used to close my act with a strait jacket bit. Nigel would heckle me from off stage.(distant voice) As I almost had the jacket off, Nigel would again start to sing and when he got to the line above, I would throw the Jacket off and have a big clown nose on.

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On 2002-04-17 20:03, DarryltheWizard wrote:
Also my book "Ventriloquism" published by Sterling Publishers in New York had a chapter on the use of magic when manipulating your partner.

Unfortunately ,the book is now out of print. You might be able to obtain it in a second hand bookstore.
Darryl the Wizard Smile


Darryl, we bought your book some years ago in a secondhand book shop. Our copy is actually called "Modern Ventriloquism", in case anyone is doing a search. I like the little "socky" puppet - especially the one whose shirt matches your tartan pants! Smile

There is one copy available at Amazon.com, for $19.95 plus shipping.

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I am now designing and writing a routine with magic and ventriloquism; It is still in a first draft and I am researching tricks now that will fit into my show, I am finding it very exciting and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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On 2002-04-15 23:16, CardTrix wrote:
This may not come of anything, but I just want to pass the idea around and see what others think.

I was at a comedy club Saturday night, the performers were great. In the act was a comedy magician, who was hilarious. Immediately following him was a ventriliquist who worked off of the magicians act somewhat...

I started thinking "what if the two acts were joined together?" Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? Could it be done and would their be any real benefit to magic...since they are both forms of entertainment?

I'm just curious as to what you all think of this...any ideas on if or why this would or wouldn't work?


I have often combined vent with my magic shows. Works great and gives the audience more for their buck.
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I've tried magic - I suck at it so I don't even try - like Dirty Harry said, "a man's got to know his limitations".
Although, I guess in a sense, I am doing magic - bringing a figure to life is kind of magical.
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At one point in time I was doing Zig-Zag raccoon:
http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php......0&page=1

Puppet manipulation with a nice magic trick, done to music. Really cool.

If you want to add magic to ventriloquism, try Zig-Zag raccoon. Smile
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I wonder if you can do a zig zag with a vent figure?
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On 2011-01-13 07:41, maps wrote:
I wonder if you can do a zig zag with a vent figure?

We can talk about that design when we meet up. Smile
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Check Youtube for Wayne Dobson's Royal Variety Show performance. Still the best example of combining vent with magic I have seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAWi15MAOmo
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Wow that was good!
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On 2011-01-13 17:12, TonyB2009 wrote:
Check Youtube for Wayne Dobson's Royal Variety Show performance. Still the best example of combining vent with magic I have seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAWi15MAOmo

While that is good, practically it is really difficult to pull it off.
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If you have nerve it would not be difficult to pull off. He's not the only one I have seen doing such routines. I am working on one at the moment, but only using one volunteer. It is no more difficult than using a vent mask.
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Bob Jepson did a complete sawing his figure in half routine using his full size Alan Semok figure. He actually did this routine many years ago at the Vent Haven ConVENTion. I don't know if there is any video or film footage of this act but I am going to try and find out. I do know that to pull this off he had 2 figures made by Alan, one with multiple movements and one with just slot jaw, that were alike.
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I had my puppet do a complete magic act and it played very well.
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