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alexanderN New user the Netherlands 72 Posts 
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Guys,
I'm trying to master Undivided from Martin Lewis. It is a great version of the torn and restored cigarette paper. I have trouble to find the right (size of) cigarette paper. The advised sort of cigarette paper (Club Cabaret) is not easy to get in Holland. Do you have a alternative, maybe a smaller size, like Mascote? Thanks! Alexander. |
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deadcatbounce Special user the Wilds of Ireland 863 Posts
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I have the Club Cabaret - exactly what you're looking for. I've PM'd you.
DCB
"With every mistake - we must surely be learning..." George Harrison.
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Axel Elite user Berlin 456 Posts
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Dear close-up workers,
I am currently working on Nate Leipzig's "Tear Up With A Twist" as described in Dai Vernon's "Tribute To Nate Leipzig". I would like to ask you if there are special ways to fold and roll up the "restored" paper, so that it unfolds easily after the first part of the effect. Any help would be greatly appreciated. All the best, Axel |
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ROBERT BLAKE Inner circle 1472 Posts
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When I did the sigaret paper I diagonaly folded the paper ZIG ZAG into a strip. theN zigzag fold half of it and then roll the rest. I would squeeze the packet between my fingers. this way it would not open prematurely. hope this helps.
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Axel Elite user Berlin 456 Posts
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Robert,
thank you very much for your help. I will give that a try. Cheers, Axel |
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Nala Nosmoht Special user Surrey,B.C. Canada, 641 Posts
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I also have a couple of Double Wide Club Cabaret papers available.
Nala |
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Magic_son Regular user 195 Posts
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Peter Studebaker has a long horn paper tear that can be found on his Classic Studebaker DVD. Real good handling, and more angle proof.
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Nala Nosmoht Special user Surrey,B.C. Canada, 641 Posts
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Oops! that should be a couple of packages of Cabaret papers! not a couple of papers.
nala |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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On Apr 9, 2015, Axel wrote: Part of the magic is the presentation. I use to do Lipzig's version, and it is not an instant restoration. The pulling of the paper out a little at time is part of the magic. Slowly the paper grows bigger and bigger, as you smooth out each portion of the paper. Without pulling my book out, I thought it was explained how Lipzig crumbled the reveal piece. |
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Axel Elite user Berlin 456 Posts
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On Apr 10, 2015, Bill Hegbli wrote: Thank you for taking the time to answer! And you're right, there is a description in the book on how to fold up the paper. But to my taste the whole description of the effect could have been a little more detailed and generally better written. And you're also right that this doesn't need or should be a flash restoration. But at that point in the routine one's hands are not completly free to unfold the paper. And if you need to regrip the paper too often it could all look a little suspicious. Hence my question if someone had a better way of folding the paper. But I agree that I probably just have to work on it a little longer to get more comfortable. I tried Robert's handling and it already made things easier for me. I'll keep practicing. Thanks for your answers, Axel |
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts
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Here is what it should look like...
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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Axel Elite user Berlin 456 Posts
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Exactly...
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ROBERT BLAKE Inner circle 1472 Posts
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AL KORAN had a great presentation which he did on stage.
book = PROFESSIONAL PRESENTATIONS by Hugh Miller, page 36. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts
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That video performance is exactly how I use to do it. Notice the paper is straighten out at the end, that is what I was trying to explain. Good trick and could be built with a lot of laughs, being just about everyone has cigarette papers on them.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2015, Kabbalah wrote: I've never been a smoker, so I never got "into" T&R cigarette paper. After seeing you do it, I wish I had been a smoker!!! That was just delightful. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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ROBERT BLAKE Inner circle 1472 Posts
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Dick, I am not a smoker but I still do the pipecleaners thumb tie.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts
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Being as closely associated with Jay as I was. I naturally tried his JASPERNESE Thumb Tie.(the method is EZ, but, I couldn't find the right presentation.)I had tried many variations like the "Red Tape" (Weiner)most of the string, cord, rope, etc. methods. Bev Bergeron and I even discussed Harry Willard's method, --and,presentation. I almost forgot, I also played with the old Austrian Thumb Cuffs as used by Milbourne Christopher on (I think) the TODAY TV SHOW. I just couldn't find the right presentation for ME!
Now retired, I do only a few shows, and it's not easy to break in material when you are only working occasionally. I always liked the Thumb Tie because the props could carry (except for a hoop)in your shirt pocket. I even had a special hoop made to do Karrell Fox's "bit".
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Leo Reynolds Jr Special user 864 Posts
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Http://www.lybrary.com/torn-and-restored......ae33eea0
Michael Skinners torn and restored cigarette paper is good as any. |
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GlenD Inner circle LosAngeles, Ca 1293 Posts
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I have loved this effect for years and as of a few years ago, the Cabaret doubles (that used to be available in the "kit" from Martin Lewis) dried up everywhere including ebay. I have found that zig zad ultra thin blue seems to work well for me anyways. They do have the gum line but I just ignore it and proceed like always and it's not a problem.
Glen
"A miracle is something that seems impossible but happens anyway" - Griffin
"Any future where you succeed, is one where you tell the truth." - Griffin (Griffin rocks!) |
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silvercup Loyal user 223 Posts
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I use OCB Gumless Papers 150 Leaf Booklet.
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