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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Are you saying the abominable snowman is gay?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Bill Hilly Elite user 449 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:15, EsnRedshirt wrote: I can very clearly remember being taught in Jr. High Civics class that interracial marriage was illegal in several states. In 1966 my aunt (a Lutheran) married a Catholic - they had to go through major hassles to get that done. 28 years ago I (an ordained minister of the omni-denominational persuasion) married a Catholic. Her priest declared the union "an abomination" and she was excommunicated. 21 years ago two friends of mine, one Baptist and the other a Methodist, married. Both churches used the word "abomination" and both were excommunicated from their respective churches. I perform many wedding ceremonies where the couples are from differing churches and are not permitted by those churches to marry. Aren't they all Christians? As one who has a life-time of religious studies, and a former professor of same, I can say to all who are confused, and to all who are absolutely certain, of what is Truth and what is False: Nothing - NOTHING - is, completely. There is NO absolute proof. There is only faith. * The preceding statement applies to religion. There are proofs and certainties in other subjects of course. But please continue. This thread is interesting. Popcorn? |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:45, critter wrote: I disagree with your definition, and I don't think it's the same deal. I have a friend in his 50s who is attracted to other men, but has never acted on it. His position is that homosexual behavior is immoral. He considers himself homosexual (as do I), but he has never engaged in homosexuality. He just thinks that it's one of those things he has to abstain from for moral reasons, like killing someone he might want to kill, stealing something he might covet, or whatever. It's a conflict I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, but that's how it is for him.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:55, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Yay! I said a snowman joke first! I finally win something
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:56, LobowolfXXX wrote: I disagree with your disagreement. Your friend illustrates my point. His internal torment is the result of a conflict between who he is and who he's been told he's 'supposed' to be. That's what makes gay people kill themselves.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:56, Beano wrote: The question of what is Truth is a very different question than that of what is Proof, or Provable. At any given moment in time, there is a single, finite number of stars in the universe, even though no person will ever know what that number is.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Carrie is very lucky that the homosexual agenda is not to make homosexuality compulsory, as heterosexuality used to be, still is in some places, and some would like to be again.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:15, EsnRedshirt wrote: Your refrence to people of different races as compared to gay people is as the saying goes "apples and oranges". Your point is so far off that it is not made. Does that mean pedophiles should be accepted in the future if people feel it is right, along with beasteality which in both cases their are those that believe that these life styles are perfectly acceptable. It goes without saying that just because it can be done does not make it right. When gay people can between them procreate I will definitely change my mind and agree with you. Now I am sure you will jump on the wagon and say, what about people who cannot conceive? All I can say to that point is: Well what about them? They are a male and female in what is considered a "normal" relationship but have the unfortunate situation of not being able to bear children through no fault of their own. Which when they marrieid possibly had no idea of the situation. Whereas on the other hand a gay couple knows that children by their own doing are not in their future. Of course this point is going off on a tangent rather than sticking to a gay life style and veerinig into gay marriage which is another topic entirely along with gay adoption.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:59, critter wrote: By your definition, he's not even homosexual.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:59, Destiny wrote: I always wondered about the philosophy (MLK?) about the moral obligation to break an unjust law, as applied to gay marriage. That one would overload a few city halls!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
"Does that mean pedophiles should be accepted in the future if people feel it is right, along with beasteality which in both cases their are those that believe that these life styles are perfectly acceptable"
Children and animals cannot consent to sex - even if they voluntarily submit to sex, they do not have equal power with person they are having sex with - therefore the sex is not consensual - apples and oranges indeed. |
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Bill Hilly Elite user 449 Posts |
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On 2010-12-04 23:59, LobowolfXXX wrote: Exactamundo, Cunningham! (I'm channeling The Fonz.) That was a very good example, Lobowolf. Clear as a perfect night sky. |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
I can see a line of rainbow branded abomination plush dolls coming out - pink fuzzy chthuhlu...
and the horror is the teddy ruxtpin voices why do you do this to me - get my mind running out to bad places. please, isn't the thought of arsenic laden bacteria enough to worry you for today? Do they have to be gay too? PS - I put the spell checker on that chthulu and it comes up with "lunchtime" as a suggestion. Arrgh!
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
"Homosexuality is a behavior born of brokenness, a psychological defense for pain. Homosexuality is a developmental disorder brought about by one or more of the following: (1) a need for same-sex parent's love, (2) a need for gender identity, and (3) a fear of intimacy with someone of the opposite sex. Contributing factors for same-sex attractions include: wounding by same-sex parent, wounding by opposite-sex parent, wounding by peers, and sexual abuse."
I can't believe Carrie has trotted this nonsense out for another run around the track. Carrie you judge other homosexuals based on your own past temptation. You admitted yourself the reason you were tempted was loneliness. That is not being homosexual - that is desperation - and the desperation of loneliness is a terrible thing. Genuine homosexuals are not homosexual because we can't find a partner of the opposite sex (hence the overused expression - 'what a waste'). We are homosexual because we are quite happily attracted to our own sex. If you truly wish to understand people, you must occasionally look outside your own cocoon. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2010-12-05 00:19, Destiny wrote: "We don't see the world as it is; we see the world as we are."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
THE GREAT LESBIAN NON LESBIAN HEAVEN OR NOT QUESTION OF THE DAY!
Carrie, my some day slow dance partner, please answer thus'un for me. Note this is a real situation. My niece was a lesbian and had sexual relationships with women. She was a crew cut flannel shirt type of gal and fun lovin' to boot. I have to admit I was greatly bothered by the choice she made....not being a lesbian, the choice she made to pierce her nose and get a big arse ring it in, I hate that, the lesbian stuff was none of my business, neither was the dressing like a dude. That nose ring though, hard to take. I told her that as long as her decisions didn't involve taking hostages I was cool with it though I was concerned about her because of the high suicide rate among girls like her. Okay, she is in her early 20's, shacking up with a girl who dressed like it was the 1950s, you know, poodle skirts and bobby sox....interesting girl, and she, my niece, goes and has herself registered as a male, meaning (literally) she is not allowed to use the ladies room and gets a new drivers license with a new name etc.. A couple years later she gets a sex change and becomes, based on her ID, new birth certificate, and....uh....attachment, a guy. So the girlfriend, a lesbian bobby soxer, leaves him (formerly her) for another woman who was once my niece now my nephews best friend, now her former best friend. Here is the score, former lesbian now a straight guy cuz he dates women has his women become his former woman by leaving with his formerly her best friend who is a lesbian and still is but is a former best friend. Got it? Soooooo, the niecephew gets a new girlfriend who is a lesbian and who considers my nephew to be a reallllly butch girl but doesn't tell him that she considers him a her and they get married in a state that doesn't allow gay marriage but since she is now a he then it is legal but then the transgender people try to make them a 'cause' but the nephew formerly the niece shuts them down because she now a he doesn't want to be part of their cause. So the new bride turns out to be a drunk and druggie (and I must say one of the nicest women I ever met) and leaves the nephew, formerly the niece, for a woman because it is hard being a lesbian if you are with a human that has an...uh...attachment. Now the niecephew has another girl who isn't a lesbian but has issues, clearly since she is shacking with a short fat guy who use to be a gal. Okay.....everyone up to speed? Good! Here is the question, since my niece became a guy she is now having non gay sex so does that mean he is now legit and can get into heaven? |
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
"We don't see the world as it is; we see the world as we are."
Lobo sums up the whole thread in one line. |
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts |
Carrie, *One statistic that really taught me this was as follows: 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990).
This was 20 years ago, and I fail to see the point.
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Broken abused people make better students?
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Sounds good to me....
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