We Remember The Magic Café We Remember
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Shuffled not Stirred » » Stacks... (0 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page 1~2 [Next]
Steve Brooks
View Profile
Founder / Manager
Northern California - United States
4741 Posts

Profile of Steve Brooks
Here is an interesting topic starter; "What is your favorite stack to use? And, why do you favor that stack over another?". Smile
"Always be you because nobody else can" - Steve Brooks
View Profile
New user
new hampshire
46 Posts

Profile of donaldlaporte
Well I’ll start it off. I like the standard 8 Kings or a Si Stebbins stack.

donald laporte

I know I didn’t go into detail why, but there’s a beautiful women asking me to give the laptop a rest, so what would you do? I’m outta here Smile Smile
Scott F. Guinn
View Profile
Inner circle
"Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G"
6583 Posts

Profile of Scott F. Guinn
From a brand new deck I use Darwin Ortiz’s method for getting into Si Stebbins. I also sometimes use the Osterlind Stack, and when using my own deck, it is usually in Joyal’s Stack. Have also used the Aronson Stack, Rusduck Stay Stack and Tertredistic Stack, but primarily Stebbins or Joyal.
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn
My Lybrary Page
Tom Cutts
View Profile
Northern CA
5799 Posts

Profile of Tom Cutts
I'm an Aronson Stack user. I like the chaos it appears to be.

Tom Cutts
J R Thomas
View Profile
Regular user
Champaign Illinois
138 Posts

Profile of J R Thomas
I'm with you Tom. Can't beat the Aronson Stack.
Those who hear not the music

Think the dancers mad
Jim Morton
View Profile
Veteran user
361 Posts

Profile of Jim Morton
Coming to this topic a little late...

If someone hands me a new, unopened deck of cards, I love using Ortiz's method to get it into Si Stebbins. It confounds the heck out of people. If I'm setting the deck up myself ahead of time, I'll often use a modified Si Stebbins that does not put the cards into red-black order, allowing me to spread them.

Chad Sanborn
View Profile
Inner circle
my fingers hurt from typing,
2206 Posts

Profile of Chad Sanborn
I have an unusual stack that can be done with a borrowed deck in less than a minute. You just seperate the cards odd/even. Ace is counted as 1 (odd), jack is 11 (odd), queen is 12 (even), and king is 13 (odd). And ’oddly’ enough you get more odd cards than even. With the deck in this order, you can fan it and hand it out for inspection. No one will ever be able to ’see’ the stack. Throw in some false shuffles and your set for a miracle. It is less versatile than most stacks, but if you use it for a location, (find the odd in the even section or vise versa) it is hard to beat.


PS... the odd/even cards are not arranged in any particular sequence. Ie... NOT 1,3,5,7 etc. just random... 3,7,1,11,9 etc.
Lonnie Dilan
View Profile
Special user
Canyon Country, California
823 Posts

Profile of Lonnie Dilan
Hey guys!!

I always hear about stacking and the 8 Kings and all that, but where can I read and learn these? like the Stebbins stack and all that?

Sounds like fun.

View Profile
Inner circle
Orlando, FL
1240 Posts

Profile of Jeff
I use the Stebbins setup for a few effects, including one in the next issue of AM/PM published by our friend Tom Cutts.

Contact Tom about subscribing to this mag. You won’t be disappointed.

Available for order now:

See new, used, and collectable magic and books for sale at:
Jim Morton
View Profile
Veteran user
361 Posts

Profile of Jim Morton

On 2001-12-12 14:15, Lonnie Dilan wrote:

Hey guys!!

I always hear about stacking and the 8 Kings and all that, but where can I read and learn these? like the Stebbins stack and all that?

Sounds like fun.



The best place to learn tricks with the Si Stebbins set up is Frank Garcia’s Miracle With Cards. It has a whole chapter on the subject. I don’t know if this is currently in print, but it’s fairly easy to find, It’s not too expensive either.

I believe that both Si Stebbins and Eight Kings are also discussed in Hugard’s Encyclopedia of Card Tricks.

View Profile
New user
89 Posts

Profile of DaveVegas
Call me ignorant, but just how useful is a stacked deck? Can anyone get me out of my blissful ignorance and give me a few ideas about effects that a stacked deck can do that can't be achieved with some fairly basic card controls? Smile
View Profile
Regular user
108 Posts

Profile of Mystero
Chad, what you have is not a stacked deck but a set up or separation, not the same and has limited use. I have a booklet called Stack Attack and it has quite a few very clever uses/presentations using a stacked deck. (Email if interested in specifics).

I recommend it highly. Also I’d like to add that a memorized deck is also a stacked deck in that the order of the cards cannot be changed and believe me when I tell you there are miracles being worked with memorized decks (i.e. Juan Tamirez and Mike Close) undefined.


Keep America in your prayers and stay amazing, Mystero.
View Profile
Inner circle
A good lecturer at your service!
4395 Posts

Profile of Paul
I’ll second Mystero, the Stack Attack booklet is well worth a look.

I prefer the Stebbins deck myself as a cyclic stack. But there are some brilliant stacks in the James File to accomplish stuff you could not duplicate with a few sleights.

When out working I generally use a straight deck though as I encourage the spectators to handle it. If I do use a stack in such a scenario I switch the deck in.
Michael Peterson
View Profile
Inner circle
is where I'm trapped, because of my
4071 Posts

Profile of Michael Peterson
I can’t remember where I learned it Smile But, you can do a nice little poker deal with the Stebbins stack.

All you have to do is have the 2 of spades on the bottom & it is a self working 4 hand poker deal where you end up with 3 strong hands, but you get a royal flush.

A nice quicky Smile

View Profile
Regular user
117 Posts

Profile of Reian
I thought about shuffling the deck until it's really mixed. Well one shuffle is good, but I want to really randomize everything, then place the deck face down and number every card one to fifty two. Then use them as flash cards, and memorize sets by five cards. When you do it this way, by 5, you learn it in sets and you remember the first card of the set so it just seems easier.

I also have a flash cards type deck using Aronson Stack. You could memorize the order and number position in like 4-6 hours. But I haven't done it so it's automatic. That might take months, doubt a year. I tried to use John Lovick's, "attack on the stack", but it's all, have this special meaning or have a kind of relationship with the card and the position number. I think that's just going overboard but whatever rocks your boat.
View Profile
Eternal Order
24098 Posts

Profile of Dynamike
Richard Osterlind's BCS.
View Profile
Inner circle
Yorba Linda, CA
3469 Posts

Profile of S2000magician
Aronson. My first exposure to memorized deck work came from Simply Simon, so I bought Bound to Please.
View Profile
Elite user
Central Japan
498 Posts

Profile of Billgussen
Another vote for Osterlind's BCS. It contains no clue that the deck is stacked (such as alternating reds and blacks) -- it just looks like a shuffled deck. But you can figure out the next card using the math, and after it's memorized, one can use a good portion of the mem-deck tricks with it as well.

Steve Haynes
View Profile
Inner circle
Southeastern United States
1087 Posts

Profile of Steve Haynes
Stebbins using The Si Stebbins Secret from At The Card Table (Darwin Ortiz).
Because I'm constantly opening new decks and since I can get into the stack in real time, and there are so many effects that I can do, from mentalism, to gambling effects.

Last but not least, is the Joyal Stack. Simply because it's a memorized deck and makes certain effects as strong as possible.

View Profile
Inner circle
The Netherlands
5829 Posts

Profile of Vlad_77
Great topic!! Aronson is my preferred stack although I am studying Mnemonica as well. These of course are mem decks so I will mention a few of my favourite stacks:

Si Stebbins, Eight Kings, and John Cornelius's system in his "Award Winning Magic of John Cornelius".

As mentioned by Paul H, Stewart James has some truly interesting stacks that create some hard hitting effects.

Best to all in the Café,
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Shuffled not Stirred » » Stacks... (0 Likes)
 Go to page 1~2 [Next]
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2020 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.16 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL