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Anyone tried placing the gimmick in a Bicycle Deck of cards? That shouldn't be that hard I think ... . Some scissors and glue should do the trick. There are even very small, flat 'gimmicks' that would imrpove the 'cards', no?
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I don't know what the card gimmick which comes with the Ghost Lamp is like, but here is how I made mine for the Scotty York Lamp.

Get a strong thin, flat m****t. The thickness of the m****t should be about 1/3 the thickness of a deck of cards, mine is about 3/16ths thick. Use contact cement (May be called something different in Europe - essentially a kind of glue which is used to coat two surfaces and allowed to dry before the two surfaces are pressed together creating very strong adhesion.) to glue it to the back of a playing card in the center. Take some other cards and cut rectangles out of the middle of them. The size of the rectangle depends on the dimensions of your m****t. To determine the ideal size, lay the first 'hole' card you cut on the card with the m****t stuck to it and move it left and right and up and down making sure the hole doesn't extend out over the bottom card. Stack these 'hole' cards face down on the first card. When these stacked 'hole' cards reach the level flush with the top surface of the m****t, carefully glue another face down card to the m****t. You now have a gimmicked card packet. Those loose "hole" cards will shift around a bit when you handle the packet, which looks better than a solid card block.
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I really can't see why though as the cards themselves are nice quality and made by the same USPCC. It would be loads easier to just take the cards and but them in an 808 Bike box and call it a day. I honestly don't see it as being a problem as specs don't care which cards we use - we do. I can see your point in not ringing the deck in loudly, but putting the existing "Streamline" cards in a box seems like an easier and wiser solution. The M****t used is apparently pretty strong.
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Hi Killertweety:

I already had a gaffed Bicycle deck that I had made for another effect. Essentially I used the method outlined by Randwill, workd great and the gaff packet is a little thinner. However as Saysold mentioned probally not a big reason to make one unless you are doing effects with other Bike decks and you want to ring in a deck to do Ghost Lamp.

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I was at Walmart yesterday and (for the first time ever) noticed the "Streamline" brand of cards being sold there. They are cheap at like $1.00 a box so I bought a few extras. I guess it's a lower end line from USPCC.
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I noticed the same thing at Walmart in Canada... 94 cents a deck, the quality is pretty good for 94 cents! Funny I don't recall having seen these decks before.
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I might try to make my own gimmick but then again, as Saysold1 mentiones, why not just put it in a Bicycle box ... I wonder anyone would find out.
Then again, the 'self-made' gimmick could be made a LOT thinner when you use one of these thingies: http://www.supermagnete.be/S-1.5-0.5-N - if they are strong enough that is, but they are quite strong and if not there are larger, very flat ones and much stronger for sale on that site (a company in Belgium btw). (hope I'm not giving away the secret, but then again, good luck building your lamp Smile )
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Man that is a small m****t - I look forward to hearing what you come up with. Sounds like you are going to experiment. I agree that the existing gimmick is a little large, but then again the way the piles are divided it doesn't seem obvious to me. Good luck.

BTW I was in Belgium many years ago and I thought Brussels and Antwerp were wonderful cities.
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O.k. as I've mentioned it already somewhere else: I put a small m...t under my close-up mat (using sticky tape) and got a far better presentation due to that fact... use only 5 or 6 cards from your ordinary deck, doing a sort of lie detector test... Smile Jan
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On 2011-02-12 21:20, JanForster wrote:
O.k. as I've mentioned it already somewhere else: I put a small m...t under my close-up mat (using sticky tape) and got a far better presentation due to that fact... use only 5 or 6 cards from your ordinary deck, doing a sort of lie detector test... Smile Jan


You are too good a man and far too generous Jan... but thank you for the inspiration...

So do you keep the cards face up then and let the bulb act as the detector or is face down preferred?
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Checkout THIS presentation. You won't need the scissors. Smile

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On 2011-02-13 01:06, saysold1 wrote:
So do you keep the cards face up then and let the bulb act as the detector or is face down preferred?

Yes, exactly; the cards are face up. And before I let the spectator select any card absolutely free (!), then I'll give him "any" 5 more cards face down. He mixes all cards. Due to the fact that I use a memorized deck all and that all cards I hand to him face down (looking away) are coming from different positions underneath his selected card I've to look only for the card with the lowest stack number. That's his card. Jan

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Checkout THIS presentation. You won't need the scissors. Smile
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But they add a lot to your presentation... if you start to play ... Jan
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Jan, never thought you'd ever use a Tenyo item.... Smile
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Nicolino, I don't have the Tenyo item... but the original Ken Brooke version (since the late eighties) when it was really expensive (around 150 Euro or 200 Dollars...) and in fact something exclusive... and there is a huge possibility that I'm not going to use either this one anymore as certain exclusivity is gone by now. That's why I'm giving away parts of my presentation. I'll survive that... Smile Jan
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On 2011-02-13 15:03, JanForster wrote:
Nicolino, I don't have the Tenyo item... but the original Ken Brooke version (since the late eighties) when it was really expensive (around 150 Euro or 200 Dollars...) and in fact something exclusive... and there is a huge possibility that I'm not going to use either this one anymore as certain exclusivity is gone by now. That's why I'm giving away parts of my presentation. I'll survive that... Smile Jan


Jan... Danke again for the presentation ideas - I know you initially weren't planning to elaborate but you did and that was very kind. I keep fining that in general magicians (contrary to what the movie "The Prestige portrays) are some of the most generous people that I've ever encountered. I'm not trying to get sappy here but I'm sure I speak for many Jan when I say that I'm extremely appreciative.

I was also think that instead of a stack I could simply use my Bicycle UMD (ma***d deck) to achieve the same end. I never loved the big block of cards and so this method is lots cleaner and I can't wait to try it.

BTW doesn't Christian sell his S.U.M. deck that could be used for this effect as well? I don't own one but it might be a good fit too.

Also, I honestly didn't care for the Japanese Tenyo link demo as to me it is pretty much exactly the same as the standard routine albeit with 6-7 piles instead of 3-4.
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Brett, I truly believe that our art will only proceed if we all share; I met enough people in my life they did exactly this to me. So I'm just giving back...
Back to the topic: Yes of course you can use a m....d deck or the S.U.M deck, you could also take advantage of one-way face designs... Jan
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKB9LhrK0cw

You are correct. This is an excellent presentation if this effect.
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Does anyone else think it's funny that when we speak of a m****t we call it a m*****t?
I mean, anyone who is on this site or went out of their way to get here
must know what m****t is, &, if they don't, do we really care if they do, and even if we
do, can't they figure out what a m*****t is?
Anyway, I just find it f***y we talk in code :-}
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On 2012-02-02 12:25, edshern wrote:
Does anyone else think it's funny that when we speak of a m****t we call it a m*****t?
I mean, anyone who is on this site or went out of their way to get here
must know what m****t is, &, if they don't, do we really care if they do, and even if we
do, can't they figure out what a m*****t is?
Anyway, I just find it f***y we talk in code :-}


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Hi Ed:

I agree at times it seems silly but if it gets us in the habit or at least reminds us to be mindful of exposure than I do not think it is a bad thing overall.

Cheers,

John
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