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blackeagle
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What are some good book about being a professional poker dealer.Specifically Holdem. I am not talking story telling rather instructional.
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The Pro Poker Dealers Handbook is the best one. Mind you its the only one I think. Smile
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I went to dealing school a few years ago and that's the book we used. There are a few more, but it appears the be the standard text.

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Sweet I just ordered it off amazon. I hope its good.
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There's nothing difficult about being a poker dealer, but if I had to mention two things, it would be taking the correct rake at the correct time, and reading Omaha and High-Low split pot hands quickly. Anyone can learn to read the hands, but making it second nature takes some getting used to.

Thankfully, you have a table full of people that are also reading the boards for you, so if you make a mistake someone's going to let you know it right away!

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Dealing a near-perfect mechanical game helps with dealer confidence, and IMO confidence is what it's all about when dealing for experienced players.

When the poseurs start telling you (incorrectly) how to split a three-way pot, or what you "have to do" when you come across a boxed card, you as a dealer need to have the ability to stare them down and shut them up.

Also, the judgement calls can be something you need to be absolutely sure of, and then be able to stick to when you get heat from the table...........knowing when to call a guy for string betting and when not call a guy for string betting when he's just dicking around with his chips and speaking in such a way that it looks like string betting..........it helps to be solid in your admonitions to the table.

Dealing a great mechanical game gives you a leg up.........I also think many players also form a somewhat instant opinion of a dealer by how well they pitch the cards, and how crisply they present the flop.
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Black Eagle, you thinking of making this a career or just something to make a few extra bucks with ?
Poker players on the whole are just miserable, biggest bunch of crybabies I ever seen, bigger babies than 21 players and that's saying something, lol.
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I would be doing it to make a few extra bucks.
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What matters is experience and long practice. As Jason points out, the most difficult part is to read the hands almost instantaneously, to split some pots accurately and in a fast way. Anyone misses a recalcitrant card once in a while, whether you have a big self-confidence or not. You must know your game according the house procedures and how to handle with it.

About the players, I don't know how it works in USA, but here in Europe it's not the dealer job to fight with customers and bad losers. When something weird happens, the dealer calls someone in charge. Among experienced players string bets attempts are scarce and if so, other players around the table start to shout the split second someone tries one. You have to say your intention first, there is a line on the mat, every chip crossing that line is in play, in casinos, private games, illegal games, etc. In such circumstances, the dealer just need a brief comment and everything is back in order. I don't think you need a big confidence for that, it's just common sense and rules of play.

I know old timer dealers with horrible style lol. I shuffle much more quickly and beautifully than they do, no doubt about that. But I can't compete with them about how fast they count the chips, read the hands, split the pots, etc. What matters mainly for the house is how many games per hour are played.

If I were a gambling house manager I wouldn't really care about the style of my dealers. I'd prefer someone making no mistake about the rakes off or about counting the chips. Being very polite with customers and able to handle small conflicts with class, tact and proficiency. I would not really care about the way he pitches the cards! After a few hours of deal anyone is able to pitch the cards properly...

If I had to hustle a game, the last thing I'd do is to look like a professional dealer! That's something I say for years on many forums, I don't clearly see the point to show you are proficient with cards when you want to swindle someone using them. But when I see all those kids dealing at light speed on videos, well, I strongly hope (for them!) that something bad is not gonna happen in their game...
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Professional / official dealers....

What a disaster for those who want an "honest" game.

I remember that I was hired to deal games when I was in college for casino nights. At that time, I was doing sleight of hand for 4-5 years aleady. It was a good opportunity to see what would pass. I did not use my skills to deal specific players hands. But, it was fun to practice peaks, deals, shuffles and stacks to see if the moves would catch any heat.

It did not matter if I controlled specific cards...my goal was simply to see if the move passed. I did not have any financial inteest who won at these casino nights.

If I was able to get away with the methods...imagine if I was getting paid off to deal hands to certain players or if I had a partner I was going to split with later.

At that time of my life, the thrill of getting away with the moves was enough.
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On 2010-12-07 18:23, Expertmagician wrote:
Professional / official dealers....

What a disaster for those who want an "honest" game.

I remember that I was hired to deal games when I was in college for casino nights. At that time, I was doing sleight of hand for 4-5 years aleady. It was a good opportunity to see what would pass. I did not use my skills to deal specific players hands. But, it was fun to practice peaks, deals, shuffles and stacks to see if the moves would catch any heat.

It did not matter if I controlled specific cards...my goal was simply to see if the move passed. I did not have any financial inteest who won at these casino nights.

If I was able to get away with the methods...imagine if I was getting paid off to deal hands to certain players or if I had a partner I was going to split with later.

At that time of my life, the thrill of getting away with the moves was enough.

I'd rather make money then doing it just to do it. Cause either way, if something went bad and you were exposed you would still suffer a beat down.
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Im a dealer here in Vegas. Been doing it for 5 years now. Everything above is true. the most important thing to remember is(in addition to counting your box) speed kills!!! You will be tempted to deal fast and get the hands out. Two things are important when dealing, accuracy and efficiency, if you remember that, you will run a smooth game.
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Blackeagle, controlling random cards to random positions would leave little evidence to be exposed.
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On 2010-12-08 00:39, Maitre D wrote:
Blackeagle, controlling random cards to random positions would leave little evidence to be exposed.

Okay. Just I wouldn't do the work unless I was gaining something out of it. That's all.
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I can understand that, of course.
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