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Neale Bacon
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My website program is driving me bonkers. Does anyone know a good idiot-proof website building program?
I am using one called Net Objects (I think) and it seems to pick and choose which graphics it will upload so my website now has "holes" in it.
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Ed_Millis
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I have used the free version of PageBreeze. It's decent and easy, and I presume the paid version comes with better tools. The only issue I had was the HTML was full of program-specific items that weren't necesary to the page. And it made the page hard to validate. Also, because my default browser was IE, it rendered everything to IE standards. Had I known, I've have defaulted to FireFox and let it build to that.

Now, I just use NotePad++, a free text editor, and write the HTML myself. Then again, I'm a computer nerd anyway (haven't graduated to geek yet - but I'm working on it!).

Ed
Close.Up.Dave
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If you need a new computer and have the money, then get a mac. Mac's have just about every software you need for making promotional material. I made my website and DVD on it, and I'm a moron. I mooch off of my girlfriend's Mac, so I haven't bothered finding anything for my window's computer. However, I'm sure there's stuff out there for it too.
Magicforkids
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I love using iWeb but I recently found out that in is not easily located in search engines once done. If anyone has any info on this let me know. It's very easy to use
Bill Hegbli
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I have purchased several Web Design software programs, and none of them are idiot proof. Mst of the templates that come with them are designed for everything but magic. None really fit the magic theme.

Most web space you lease comes with their own software to design on site/line a web. It only takes the time to read all the instructions how their program works.

I orginally used Microsoft FrontPage 2000, but they have dropped it for some modular expesive program, I cannot figure out even which is the main design program.

Most every program today says that you can make a web page from publisher, word processor, and spreadsheet programs.

If you do not want to spend 100 hours learning as you go, then the best is to find someone to design it for you.

The last program I purchased was Serif "Webplus", as they said it would be simple, it is not if you do not want to use the templates for wine for or food, etc.

Good luck in your search, as the program companies are not turning out much these days, compared to years ago. The best thing to do is find a program that Dummies book company publishes a manual for, then at least you can actually understand what the program is suppose to do and how to do it.
Close.Up.Dave
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On 2010-12-16 00:53, wmhegbli wrote:
Most of the templates that come with them are designed for everything but magic. None really fit the magic theme.


I have to say I respectfully disagree with you on this one. I disagree in the sense that your website should probably not be "magic themed". It should be themed YOU. If all you have to show about yourself is standard templates of cheesy bunnies popping out of hats then you need to inject more personality into the website.
Doughlas
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Hi Neal,
I use NetObjects Fusion 11.0 for my site. Are you changing some of the graphics and those are the "holes" that are appearing? Drop me a PM with your contact info and let's discuss the issues you are having. I think NetObjects is a great tool for website creation.
M Sini
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If you have a Mac, iWeb is pretty "idiot proof."
Bill Hegbli
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On 2010-12-16 09:46, Close.Up.Dave wrote:
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On 2010-12-16 00:53, wmhegbli wrote:
Most of the templates that come with them are designed for everything but magic. None really fit the magic theme.


I have to say I respectfully disagree with you on this one. I disagree in the sense that your website should probably not be "magic themed". It should be themed YOU. If all you have to show about yourself is standard templates of cheesy bunnies popping out of hats then you need to inject more personality into the website.


No, I am not speaking about little furry rabbits. I a speaking about layout and design. Backgrounds with vibrant colors and radiants that produce emotion. Most of the ready templates think pastels and pinks are good colors for a web site. I think women have designed them as they are all soft an cuddley.

When starting from scratch it is just like any other program, a blank screen/canvass not very helpful for the novice that wants to DIY. So the claims that their program is easy is actally a false statement, if nothing fits. I even tried to take from one template things I liked and put them in another, that was a real mess as they had so many layers for a graphic, it just got to confusing to try and put it back together. They did not have a combine feature, so once it was in pieces it was really nothing.

See my design at http://www.dickstoner.com I used MS FrontPage 2000 template on this an it still took over 40 hours to design, having never did anything like this before so the learning curve is extensive and now I have forgotten everything I did, I cannot even find my original template in FrontPage program. So editing it is a huge job that I really not interested in doing.
Fitz
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In the past I have always used Dreamweaver on my websites, but lately I have been playing with Wordpress. I'm really impressed with it, and the best part is it's free! It's very user friendly and intuitive. You can play with it for free at http://www.wordpress.com or you can host it yourself(recommended)all the info is at http://www.wordpress.org

Good Luck,
Fitz
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Ed_Millis
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I'll echo the sentiments for WordPress. Many web hosts offer a free download and installtion on your site. There's a lot of free templates and plug-ins available, and several very reasonably-priced themes. Several Café members are quite expert with WordPress (Scott Sullivan and Michael Clay, for instance), and willing to give great gobs of help. Not to mention the "for Dummies" book!

I would NOT recommend using a word processor (like MS Word) to create a page with text and graphics and save it as a web page. It comes out horrible! And does terrible at validation, which means different browsers will not render it correctly. Been there, done that.

Ed
Joe Fitch
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I use Adobe Dreamweaver, although not idiot proof, it offers a graphical interface which means you don't need to know html and you can download lots of templates for it!
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