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I am working on a stage show for 200 people that spans the history of magic from the 1500's through present. What things play big that are small from different eras? example:

1. misers dream
2. cards across
3. cell phone in balloon...
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Just to get you started...
Cups and Balls
Linking Rings
Multiplying Billiard Balls
Sun and Moon (handkerchiefs)
Egg Bag
Rising Cards
Cut and Restored Rope
Productions from Hats
Cake in Hat
Color Changing Records
Silk Dyeing
Various Escapes
Chapeaugraphy

There are hundreds of such effects that can be found in any number of old books. Many are in the public domain and available free online.
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Columbus Discovered America in 1492, were there any magicians that came over on the Mayflower? The Quarkers would have burned them at the stake, for being Witches.

I can only find references for magic performances in America starting in the late 1800's. It would be interesting to know who was the 1st Magician in America that actually performed magic.

I can only find references that Vaudeville spawned the necessity for entertainment and thus magic performances. It seems there is a huge gap for magic in America.
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Richard Potter is the first American magician that I know of...
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Thanks for that reference, Richard Potter lived from 1783 to 1835, so I think it would be safe to say that the search for magic would be the 1800 or the 19 Century. So magic is really very young as a performance art in America.
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I don't see anything in the original post that limits the search to American magicians.
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On 2010-12-18 11:44, Michael Baker wrote:
I don't see anything in the original post that limits the search to American magicians.


So ...
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On 2010-12-17 17:17, wmhegbli wrote:
Columbus Discovered America in 1492, were there any magicians that came over on the Mayflower? The Quarkers would have burned them at the stake, for being Witches.

I can only find references for magic performances in America starting in the late 1800's. It would be interesting to know who was the 1st Magician in America that actually performed magic.

I can only find references that Vaudeville spawned the necessity for entertainment and thus magic performances. It seems there is a huge gap for magic in America.

Quarkers? I didn't know there were quantum physicists on the Mayflower.

John Rannie was performing in Boston as early as 1801. Richard Potter was performing as early as 1811.

To say that Vaudeville spawned the necessity for entertainment is a reverse argument. That's like saying that the telephone spawned the necessity for communication. If communication had not been necessary, the telephone would not have been invented.

Vaudeville was basically the creation of several major chains of agencies and theatres. There was the Chautauqua circuit, Pryor-Menz, Orpheum, and many others. The big movie theatre chains started as Vaudeville circuits. The fact that many Americans had leisure time, as limited as it might be, provided a market for entertainment.

Posted: Dec 19, 2010 2:19pm
Richard Potter was the first American-born magician to perform on US soil. John Rannie and Andrew Oehler performed in the US about 10 years before Potter did.

However, this is completely irrelevant.

The original post was really about historic magic. Magic existed LONG before the US.

Etienne is right when he says that too many Americans think that magic begins and ends on our shores. It doesn't. Many of our favorite illusions were invented overseas -- Zig-zag, Mini-Kub-Zag, Thin Model Sawing...the list is very long.
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Etienne is right when he says that too many Americans think that magic begins and ends on our shores. It doesn't...



However the United States did lead the magic community during the XXth Century with Dai Vernon, who left as deep an imprint in Magic as Jean Eugène Robert-Houdin had left in the XIXth century
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The original poster asked for magic that he could perform from the different time periods. I think he would have some trouble obtaining magic from the 1500's. Magic really did not kick off with abondence of tricks generally known until the 19th century. Thus I was trying to help the poster find magic he could actually have a chance at finding and performing easily.
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You should read your history books, William.

The cut and restored ribbon, the cups and balls and dozens of other tricks that we still perform to this day are all mentioned, and even explained in some detail, in books that were written in the 17th century. These tricks were old when they were described. We know this, because we see them in graphics from the period.
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And he never had a six year old call out "He PALMED it!"
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Actually he had a C&Bs routine where he would have the spectators carrying the actions under his instructions. The basic principle was a sort of chop cup combo but the magnets were replaced with "graters" so that, when stacking the cups, the top one would pick up the ball.
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That's an interesting idea.
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[quote]On 2010-12-19 14:13, Bill Palmer wrote:
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Quarkers? I didn't know there were quantum physicists on the Mayflower.

Bill,

Pun of the year, so far.

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The year is still young, and there are some who still don't get it.
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