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On 2010-12-25 03:32, gaddy wrote:
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On 2010-12-24 18:01, gaddy wrote:
Analogous holiday furor:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/16......-racism/

OK, not 100% analogous, but still...


OK, I want to see a film on African beliefs with a white guy playing one of THEIR deities.
I take comic books pretty seriously, but even I would not call them a religion.

Also, though my Nordic saga studies are pretty rusty, I'm pretty sure there is nothing in there that says "no blacks in asgard" Maybe "no Swedes", but who knows...

Just sayin' .


How many different races show up in Nordic mythology? How many different races make up those who were worshiping the Norse gods?
"All the world's a stage, but the play is badly cast!" - Oscar Wilde
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Not quite on the topic perhaps (but then when am I ever), but I grew up in Nigeria from ages 2 to 9, and every Christmas was taken along to see Santa Claus at the local Kingsway store, have a chat with him about what I wanted for Christmas etc. We spent one Christmas back in the UK, and I was taken along to see Santa, as usual, but I came out fuming that he was an impostor, because everyone KNEW that Santa was black, but that guy was white. Rookie error by my parents perhaps, but it had never occurred to them that I'd see past the red and white branding of the generic Santa Claus.
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On 2010-12-25 04:34, ed rhodes wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 03:32, gaddy wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 01:36, ed rhodes wrote:
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On 2010-12-24 18:01, gaddy wrote:
Analogous holiday furor:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/16......-racism/

OK, not 100% analogous, but still...


OK, I want to see a film on African beliefs with a white guy playing one of THEIR deities.
I take comic books pretty seriously, but even I would not call them a religion.

Also, though my Nordic saga studies are pretty rusty, I'm pretty sure there is nothing in there that says "no blacks in asgard" Maybe "no Swedes", but who knows...

Just sayin' .


How many different races show up in Nordic mythology? How many different races make up those who were worshiping the Norse gods?
Let's see... Races... Trolls, Giants, goblins, Fae, Humans, Kobolds, Gods...

Am I forgetting anyone?
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On 2010-12-25 05:44, gaddy wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 04:34, ed rhodes wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 03:32, gaddy wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 01:36, ed rhodes wrote:
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On 2010-12-24 18:01, gaddy wrote:
Analogous holiday furor:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/16......-racism/

OK, not 100% analogous, but still...


OK, I want to see a film on African beliefs with a white guy playing one of THEIR deities.
I take comic books pretty seriously, but even I would not call them a religion.

Also, though my Nordic saga studies are pretty rusty, I'm pretty sure there is nothing in there that says "no blacks in asgard" Maybe "no Swedes", but who knows...

Just sayin' .


How many different races show up in Nordic mythology? How many different races make up those who were worshiping the Norse gods?
Let's see... Races... Trolls, Giants, goblins, Fae, Humans, Kobolds, Gods...

Am I forgetting anyone?


Fair enough. How many races of HUMANS (ie, White, Asian, Latino et al) make up the people who are (or were) worshiping Norse Gods?
"All the world's a stage, but the play is badly cast!" - Oscar Wilde
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They're not Norse, dang it! They're Danish gods!

John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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On 2010-12-25 12:38, ed rhodes wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 05:44, gaddy wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 04:34, ed rhodes wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 03:32, gaddy wrote:
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On 2010-12-25 01:36, ed rhodes wrote:
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On 2010-12-24 18:01, gaddy wrote:
Analogous holiday furor:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/16......-racism/

OK, not 100% analogous, but still...


OK, I want to see a film on African beliefs with a white guy playing one of THEIR deities.
I take comic books pretty seriously, but even I would not call them a religion.

Also, though my Nordic saga studies are pretty rusty, I'm pretty sure there is nothing in there that says "no blacks in asgard" Maybe "no Swedes", but who knows...

Just sayin' .


How many different races show up in Nordic mythology? How many different races make up those who were worshiping the Norse gods?
Let's see... Races... Trolls, Giants, goblins, Fae, Humans, Kobolds, Gods...

Am I forgetting anyone?


Fair enough. How many races of HUMANS (ie, White, Asian, Latino et al) make up the people who are (or were) worshiping Norse Gods?
Now THAT I couldn't tell you. I suppose you'd have to either look to the source material, and draw knowledge from there (seeing as norse is a mostly dead/marginal religion)... Or ask those white racist hicks who are the ones getting their panties in a twist over the comic book movie. Smile
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I'm not getting my panties in a twist so much as I'm getting annoyed at "one way" diversity.

Any previously established white character can be re-imaged and played by a black person and that's just fine.
But if you were to consider a previously established black character and consider a white actor for the role, you'd hear across the country what a horrible racist you were.
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Ed, I didn't call you a white racist hick. Just so we're clear on that.
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I'm not getting my panties in a twist so much as I'm getting annoyed at "one way" diversity.

Any previously established white character can be re-imaged and played by a black person and that's just fine.
But if you were to consider a previously established black character and consider a white actor for the role, you'd hear across the country what a horrible racist you were.
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On 2010-12-26 20:46, ed rhodes wrote:
I'm not getting my panties in a twist so much as I'm getting annoyed at "one way" diversity.

Any previously established white character can be re-imaged and played by a black person and that's just fine.
But if you were to consider a previously established black character and consider a white actor for the role, you'd hear across the country what a horrible racist you were.


The opera version of "Othello" (in Italian, "Otello") is one of the great Verdi operas.

I remember one instance - the only time I have heard of it in this opera - the white tenor singing Otello needed to be made up to appear black. The role of Iago was sung by a black baritone, who had to be made up white!
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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