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I agree with most of what you said Carrie except this...

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(Padme never really "did it" for me the way Princess Leia did)



Padme did it alright! She even got pregnant doing it! Smile

(I just couldn't resist...)
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On 2011-01-03 11:26, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
I agree with most of what you said Carrie except this...

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(Padme never really "did it" for me the way Princess Leia did)



Padme did it alright! She even got pregnant doing it! Smile

(I just couldn't resist...)


Well, she didn't do it for me! Smile

And at least she and Annakin were married at the time. That's not seen a lot in movies these days.

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And then he killed her: ) jedi divorces are totally easy. Less paperwork.











And then he killed her. Less paperwork than my divorce. Still a darth move.
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Frickin Android tablet. I don't get this thing at all.
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Red Letter Media did a series of 3 utterly scathing 90 MINUTE REVIEWS (yes, 90) of vthese horrible, awful, completely worthless movies. I'm talking about the last three movies, here.

Some of the most amazing critiques I've ever listened to!

http://www.redlettermedia.com/
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Well I am a fan but not a fanatic. I like Spock the best I think.
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That's Star TREK, Tommy.

:)


But I think your geek creds are still good.

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On 2011-01-03 13:17, gaddy wrote:
Red Letter Media did a series of 3 utterly scathing 90 MINUTE REVIEWS (yes, 90) of vthese horrible, awful, completely worthless movies. I'm talking about the last three movies, here.

Some of the most amazing critiques I've ever listened to!

http://www.redlettermedia.com/


Well... Bohoo... I liked them. Smile
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I don't want to quote Carrie's entire long post, but it was brilliant!!!

The original SW trilogy had a very real feel to it. Everything has a grungy, used look to it. That has always appealed to me personally and I do believe it adds a very subliminal layer or realism to the movies-things just look real. That is TOTALLY missing from the prequels. The amount of CG used is just ridicilous and the look and feel of Star Wars are not there. I am very sorry ILM guys, but most of the CG looks like CG. Oh the greeblie-filled hull of the original Falcon or Star Destroyer...work made by hand-and its beautiful.

What do I, as a huge fan, personally like about the prequels:

John Williams' music on all 3
Ewan MacGregor as young Obi-Wan
Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine/Sidious
Darth Maul fight
Final fight between Anakin and Obi- Wan
The new symmetrical Darth Vader helmet

Wow...it just hit me how disappointed I really was with the new films!
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On 2011-01-03 17:55, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
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On 2011-01-03 13:17, gaddy wrote:
Red Letter Media did a series of 3 utterly scathing 90 MINUTE REVIEWS (yes, 90) of vthese horrible, awful, completely worthless movies. I'm talking about the last three movies, here.

Some of the most amazing critiques I've ever listened to!

http://www.redlettermedia.com/


Well... Bohoo... I liked them. Smile
May I ask... Why?
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The original SW trilogy had a very real feel to it. Everything has a grungy, used look to it. That has always appealed to me personally and I do believe it adds a very subliminal layer or realism to the movies-things just look real. That is TOTALLY missing from the prequels. The amount of CG used is just ridicilous (sic) and the look and feel of Star Wars are not there. I am very sorry ILM guys, but most of the CG looks like CG. Oh the greeblie-filled hull of the original Falcon or Star Destroyer...work made by hand-and it's beautiful.

What do I, as a huge fan, personally like about the prequels:

John Williams' music on all 3
Ewan MacGregor as young Obi-Wan
Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine/Sidious
Darth Maul fight
Final fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan
The new symmetrical Darth Vader helmet

Wow...it just hit me how disappointed I really was with the new films!


I agree with you on all points, my friend.

Except that Darth Vader's alleged asymmetrical helmet never bothered me. I never noticed it.

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On 2011-01-03 13:17, gaddy wrote:
Red Letter Media did a series of 3 utterly scathing 90 MINUTE REVIEWS (yes, 90) of vthese horrible, awful, completely worthless movies. I'm talking about the last three movies, here.

Some of the most amazing critiques I've ever listened to!

http://www.redlettermedia.com/


I haven't seen the reviews in question, but without seeing them I can disagree on the idea that the films are "horrible, awful, completely worthless" - they set the stage for Luke and Co. and how they got where they are at the beginning of Episode IV.

And I know "Horrible, awful and completely worthless" - I've seen "Wing Commander." (For that matter, I've sat through "Manos - The Hand of Fate")

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That's Star TREK, Tommy.

:)


I liked them both. I even liked the "reboot" "Star Trek."
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Except that Darth Vader's alleged asymmetrical helmet never bothered me. I never noticed it.


Honestly, I didn't either! I just thought the helmet looked better in Sith and later found out why. Here is info on all the different Vader helmets, in case you're interested:

http://www.starwarshelmets.com/Original-......mets.htm
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Fascinating.

The helmet looks quite beat up in the Star Wars (ANH) scenes, but as a fan I would say that means that Darth Vader had been in many battles.

He must have gotten a pay raise by ROTJ which allowed him to either buy a new helmet or get the old one repaired a bit.

:)

Thank you,

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To be fair, there was an attempt at some sort of continuity of realism in Episode I, but it was drowned out by all of the CGI.
One example of this was the little communicators that Obi-Wan and what's it, Kwai Chang Caine? used. These were made out of disposable razor handles, much as the original lightsabers included sink parts. The idea was to make the world seem familiar by using familiar objects in new ways. But the problem with episode I is that Lucas got too carried away with the CGI and stupid immaculate conception garbage and made it too unbelievable and unrelatable.

That said, Darth Maul was cool. One thing I like about the prequels was getting to see more of the Jedi and Sith "culture." Although, I think the "Tales of the Jedi" comics from Dark Horse did better on this count.

Episode II did include one of my favorite Yoda moments. It was how, after an incredibly acrobatic lightsaber duel, he picks up his cane and starts limping off. Like Yoda just pretends to be old and feeble.
Another great Yoda scene was in Episode III when he enters the chamber and just kind of uses the force to "witch slap" the red guards.
One of the biggest disappointments was the way that the Yoda v Palpatine fight ended though. It was really anti-climactic.

I would say that the all time best lightsaber fights would have to be a toss up between the 3-way Darth Maul battle in Episode I, and Obi-Wan v Vader-kin in Episode III.

I also thought the diner scene in Episode II added a bit of authenticity to the world. Though, I still can't decide if it was out of place or not.

I also loved Christopher Lee's performance as Count Dookula. He's scary because after he uses the force on you he will bite your neck and drink your blood.

And Palpatine was fantastically sleazy. He was just so easy to hate for the audience, who knew what he was up to the whole time.

So... the prequels don't stack up to the originals overall. The characters aren't as interesting or likeable (mostly, some still are.)
The look isn't as authentic, etc.
BUT, they are still decent movies with some great moments and they really help to set up the background for what happens later.
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Manos was much better than the new star wars movies.
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On 2011-01-03 13:17, gaddy wrote:
Red Letter Media did a series of 3 utterly scathing 90 MINUTE REVIEWS (yes, 90) of vthese horrible, awful, completely worthless movies. I'm talking about the last three movies, here.

Some of the most amazing critiques I've ever listened to!

http://www.redlettermedia.com/


I haven't seen the reviews in question, but without seeing them I can disagree on the idea that the films are "horrible, awful, completely worthless" - they set the stage for Luke and Co. and how they got where they are at the beginning of Episode IV.

And I know "Horrible, awful and completely worthless" - I've seen "Wing Commander." (For that matter, I've sat through "Manos - The Hand of Fate")

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On 2011-01-03 14:15, Carrie Sue wrote:
That's Star TREK, Tommy.

:)


I liked them both. I even liked the "reboot" "Star Trek."
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\I liked them both. I even liked the "reboot" "Star Trek."


Even? The new ST film was great!
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Manos was much better than the new star wars movies.


No. Dear god no, it wasn't.
Manos-The Hand of Fate had all the film quality of 8mm pornography with none of the highlights.
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On 2011-01-03 17:55, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
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On 2011-01-03 13:17, gaddy wrote:
Red Letter Media did a series of 3 utterly scathing 90 MINUTE REVIEWS (yes, 90) of vthese horrible, awful, completely worthless movies. I'm talking about the last three movies, here.

Some of the most amazing critiques I've ever listened to!

http://www.redlettermedia.com/


Well... Bohoo... I liked them. Smile
May I ask... Why?


Just because I do. If you don't, too bad... Smile
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Darth Maul should've been killed by Anakin.

It would've made the prequels so much better.
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