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There was an issue of a Star Wars comic where Darth Vader fights Darth Maul's clone or ghost or something. Vader wins and as Darth Maul is dying he asks "What could you possibly hate enough to defeat me?" Vader turns his back on him and says: "Myself."
It was freakin' sweet.

I like Count Dookula though.
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I saw that comic...

Makes my argument even more "hmmm... What could've been...".

You know?

Alas...
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I'd like to have seen another Sith come into one of the romantic scenes in Episode II and just start "Truly, deeply" stabbing the *** out of Anakin.
Those scenes just made the prequels nearly unbearable for me. Thank Elvis for DVD's so I can skip through those scenes and get on with the Yoda fight!
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I'd like to have seen another Sith come into one of the romantic scenes in Episode II and just start "Truly, deeply" stabbing the *** out of Anakin.
Those scenes just made the prequels nearly unbearable for me. Thank Elvis for DVD's so I can skip through those scenes and get on with the Yoda fight!


The one scene that always, always, makes me cringe is when Obi Wan jumps up and over Darth Maul (who has his lightsaber ready), then just proceeds to cut Maul in half! OMGWTF!!!

What about all the "I have the higher ground Anakin" thing in the third Episode when Obi Wan dismembers Anakin? It doesn't work for the Sith against angry Padawans?

If Qui Gon AND Obi Wan couldn't kill Maul fighting him two on one, then why kill Maul THAT way in the end?

If you're gonna kill Maul, at least make it believable within the context of the story.

Gets me cussing every time I see that scene. Smile

What were you thinking George?

Harrison Ford should've been there to tell him that that just would not work onscreen. Smile
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The point is that Maul is a sith. He is driven by hate. He is very arrogant and that is his downfall. If you think about it, is is believable within the context of the story. Obi-Wan is calm and aware of his surroundings whereas Maul is just too confident and thus fails to see what is to come. When Obi-Wan was hanging in the reactor pit (or whatever that was), Maul believes he has won (just look at his face) and that's why Obi manages to surprise him. Granted, Obi could've jumped a bit faster.

As for the higher ground...well there is many examples in history where higher ground indeed is the key in winning a battle. I also remember reading somewhere that Anakin did have problems being in lower position, though I cant remember where it was. And Obi-Wan had experience with a jump like that-he did it himself (Maul fight!). Again, shows him being in focus and aware of his surroundings whereas Anakin is blinded with hate.
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Still, it could've been done better imo... Smile
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Yeah it could have been done better, I am with you there.

Being the geek I am, here's my lightsabers...

And if you need a better view, here's a link:

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Haha, that "Vader Did You Know?" was hilarious! Smile
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"Vader Did You Know?"

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Here we go again...

Number 7! Smile
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Can't believe it's a whole year away Smile
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Can't believe it's a whole year away Smile


I can't believe this thread I started is four years old. Smile
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I love Star Wars, but I'm with the camp that believes the first one (Episode IV) was by far the best. It was spontaneous, we were meeting the characters for the first time, there were "unsurmountable" problems (like the Deasth Star), and it just moved. The characters made mistakes. And it had enough humor to make you believe these characters were real people.

The rest were fine, but, movies being a huge business, I had to wonder how much of the later stories were influenced by the need (the want?) to create merchandising and spin-off opportunities. After the light sabers, Darth Vader helmets, and action figures took off, it would seem that Jabba's barge would make a great model kit, some of the costumes (including Leia's harem outfit) would sell like crazy, and, later, that the Ewoks would make great dolls and might even have their own spinoff. All this stuff was licensed by Lucasfilm right up front, so anybody selling it would have to pay a licensing fee.

I find it so interesting that movie sequels often aren't as good as the original, but yet TV series can go on and on and still be good. Both have the same characters in basically the same situation doing basically the same thing. It's probably a combination of things: each TV episode stands on its own (so therefore the story tends to be more spontaneous), there are different writers, an episode is shorter than a movie, and on.
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Now I disagree about the effects. I like the miniatures they originally used better than the overabundance of CGI in the prequels.
The only really bad one was the Rancor beast. Obvious lines where he was inserted.
I love the mythology of Star Wars. I think maybe the Church of Jedi takes it a bit too far, but Lucas really did a good job with his parallels to older mythologies and philosophies. At least, until the stupid midichlorian stuff. You're telling me that the force is little parasites? It's a freakin' germ? "Timmy can't come to the cantina today, he's got a bad case of the 'chlores!" I preferred thinking of it as more like chi. Stupid midichlorian, Jar-Jar, pod race, grumble.
Only one reason to watch Episode I: Darth Maul fight.
Episode II made me want to schmarf with all of the romantic garbage. But, again, the saving grace was the Yoda fight.
Episode III I liked all around. Except maybe that Anakin's transformation seemed a little sudden. Like, one minute he feels bad about killing a Sith, and the next minute he's slaughtering little kids? A bit quick, I think.
But it had some awesome fights. Great moments from the Yoda.

IV-VI are all time classics. Everything about them is good. Except that Rancor.

They are not parasites. They benefit us as much as we benefit them. I do think that he should have made it more mysterious instead of pseudo-scientific.
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Episode 7 with destroy the franchise instantly. For the movie to work the Dark side will have to return, but if the dark side returns then the first 6 movies will be pointless because the reason they ended is that the dark side was destroyed. Not to mention that Anakin, the chosen one is dead, and therefor can't destroy the Sith again. You could say that there are multiple chosen ones, but was that not the main downfall of the Matrix which was an otherwise great franchise? Makes me want to go to the dark side. Smile
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As Yoda pointed out, though, the prophecy may have been misread. And, as Obi-Wan says, the truth often depends on point of view. Restoring "balance" to the Force could mean many things. There were a couple of hundred Jedi and only two Sith, so eliminating the Jedi and then creating Luke and Leia means two lightsiders to match the two Sith. But nothing says it stays in balance forever. Like in tai chi, being balanced on two feet equally is a transitional posture. If Luke begins a new Jedi order then someone else may be starting a new Sith order.

I like the Jed'aii origin story of the world with a dark moon and a light moon and that if the Force users on the planet didn't maintain balance between the light and dark sides of the Force then the planet would suffer severe storms and destroy itself.
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Perhaps, but is it not a disappointing thing for the dark side to return after it was destroyed? Also who would bring it back? There was no sith after Darth Vader and the Emperor as pointed out by Master Windu At Qui-Gon's funeral. Someone could rediscover it, but I have this strange feeling that there are going to be a ton of inaccuracies in this movie. They should have made another prequel trilogy telling of Qui-Gon's padawan days under Count Dooku. At then end of the trilogy Qui-Gon could become Obi-Wan's master.
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I'm guessing it will be a Sith holocron story. One of the theories is that the villain is a Force-sensitive Vader groupie and that's why his lightsaber makes the "dirty" sound in the trailer, because he's figuring it out on his own. The EU (which Disney has decided to disregard) there were a series of Emperor clones.
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I to disregard the EU because o stupid things like that.
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