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Denis Bastible
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I know it is covered on the Ammar DVD. Can someone direct me to where it is covered in print? Thank you and Happy New Year
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The Dai Vernon Cups And Balls by Lewis Ganson 1978.
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The MAJ or the Ammar book is a better source IMHO
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Whatever the source, the thing that got my attention on this move is that the hand and wrist rotate the wand creating the illution that the wand spins. A really wonderful move.
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I agree with Bri.

Michael Ammar's explanation in the Complete Cups & Balls is very accurately written and makes this move much easier to comprehend.
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On 2011-01-02 16:07, dcjames wrote:
I agree with Bri.

Michael Ammar's explanation in the Complete Cups & Balls is very accurately written and makes this move much easier to comprehend.


I third this great source.
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As far as I'm aware the Complete Cups and Balls book is hard to get hold of nowadays. Michael also mentions that the description in the Ganson book is partially incorrect. I learned the spin and vanish from the Magic of Michael Ammar. The book has some great material and also insightful essays on psycology and misdirection. jim
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See also the book "The Magic of Michael Ammar", pages 26-31. A well written and well illustrated description, from which I learned the spin.

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A very beautiful move in the right hands for sure. But painfully obvious if not done with perfect timing and confidence.
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I can only speak from my experience. I learned from the Ganson book which, for me, seemed to be very effective.
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The Ammar book is great.

Semi-related question - is the original of this move the one described in The Sphinx vol. 44, no 5, "Billiard Ball and Wand Twirl", by Silent Mora? (For the record, that's July 1945).
This isn't a great description by the way - it's a page of text without illustrations, and the text isn't entirely clear.

The move sounds extremely similar but the twirl isn't the same as the one described in the Ammar book or DVD... Mora says
"You have completely made one revolution — and one only. That is all. Just one full revolution."

Whereas the "Dai Vernon Wand Spin" as described by Ammar involves 2 1/2 revolutions and the grip is different.

Either way, good luck with the move. Do it over a bed is my advice; cuts down on the back strain when you're bending over to pick stuff up... Smile
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I believe it is Dai Vernon's variation on Silent Mora's method.
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Funny thing. I do it backwards. Maybe can post a video clip.
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That would be great Pete.
Video would really help for that. There are very few out there.
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Denis Bastible
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I just received a copy of the MAJ compendium, it has a very detailed explanation. Thanks.
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Probably my favorite move in magic - beautifully deceptive.
I've found that turning slightly while performing it (something I picked up from Michael Vincent) helps to cover anything that may flash. I've started fooling myself with larger and larger objects while doing this. I love it.
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