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Ok here is the scoop. In my history class at school we are supposed to do a project on anything we want about Japan, China or Mongolia and we can present the project in any way we want (Presentation, powerpoint or even a PERFORMANCE). So I need to know of a place that I can learn anything and everything about either traditional chinese, japanese or mongolian(not sure that that will include a magical history)magic. Also maybe a magician. So I need to know what source I can recieve info on traditional magic or a magician. I was also thinking if I could learn this type of magic in the 3 weeks that I have to do so and perform it. I had my eye on the chinese magician ching ling foo. Anyway, I need a source where I could learn about something of the sort and I need to know what I'm doing the project on by friday. The presentation is in 3 weeks though
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I don't mean to sound cynical, but I don't think that you can possibly learn a performance piece in three weeks. After all, you need to find it, obtain the parts, learn it and perfect it in three weeks.

As far as source material is concerned, get Milbourne Christopher's Illustrated History of Magic or his Panorama of Magic. Clarke's Annals of Conjuring is also a good source. This is for the history, not for a performance piece.

As far as a performance piece is concerned, learn "Snowstorm in China." It is not extremely difficult, and it has the extremely pleasurable aspect of being able to make a real MESS in your classroom!
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Since you are already interested in Ching Ling Foo, the Foo Can is pretty much a no brainer to operate, but working it into a decent performance in such short time is risky at best.
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You are more than welcome to use any information on my father as well.
He is the only professional magician to be an assistant to both
Blackstone, Sr. and Dante who mentored him and it inspired him to
create his own show.

I'm almost done with my lecture video that I'll have available by passcode soon.

If there are two specific pieces that are origin in nature to China and Japan
I suggest the Chinese Linking Rings (yes I know maybe a bit cheesy sounding but true)
and if you have Dr. Tarbell magic course in volume six there is a trick my
father showed him and drew of him performing that he learned in Japan while
serving in the US Army during WWII.

It has been performed and exposed by the masked magician but also performed in
season 1 of Criss Angel's "Mindfreak"

If you are interested I can get you specific page numbers. Harlan misspelled my
father's name therefore it will be a bit different to search out.

Read more about my father at: http://presskit.mai-ling.net/
click on the magic link.
there's a video and a story written in MAGIC magazine.

Hope that helps.
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Gibeciere (the journal of the Conjuring Arts Research Center) ran a six part series on early magic in Japan. The articles are incredibly detailed.
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What about han ping chien? Where can I learn about him and what sort of effect might I perform if I can practice it in time?(which I may not be able to considering this is Han ping Chien)
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The one trick Han Ping Chien was most famous for was his version of the coins through the table. There is a basic move that is explained in some of Slydini's material, but it isn't easy. It takes a few weeks to get it down.

Consider a Power Point presentation. It's much easier to put together.

You could also list some famous Asian performers who weren't Asian at all, such as Okito, who was Dutch and Chung Ling Soo, who was actually an American of European ancestry.
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Some more info...

http://www.longtacksam.com/

Great film BTW.
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Marshall mentioned, the Tarbell Course in Magic is a great source for more Oriental magic. Bill is correct, it will be tough to learn all of the good effects as they are extensive. One good trick to do that was from Ching Ling Foo's repertoire is the cut and restored ribbon. You can even give a brief description how this was a trick that he passed on to his daughter which is the custom with Oriental magic.

I know the Chinese Rice Bowls also seems cliché but that’s another good one to do. You can combine it with the Foo can to make the water disappear.
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I was going to mention chinese rice bowls too,
which are a really great effect as well.

Bill mentioned Fake Chinese Magicians.
I started a thread on the Genii Forum to help
list many of them. There were quite a few.

LINK:
http://www.geniimagazine.com/forums/ubbt......st235702
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There was also "Ah Foo!"
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This reminds me. I understand they are making a movie in Hollywood about the constant war in the Middle East. In this version, all of the Israelis and Arabs will be portrayed by Native Americans.
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Its no different than all the Chinese people casted in
"Flower Drum Song" were Japanese

There was a movie role that my father lost to Jack Soo
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What luck. If he got that role, it would have been him on Barney Miller instead of Soo.
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I didn't see him among the listed, but William Mayoh performed as "HoYam".
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On 2011-01-08 03:19, mtpascoe wrote:
What luck. If he got that role, it would have been him on Barney Miller instead of Soo.



I don't know about that.
Since acting was more of a stereotype casting.
And he did iit on the side.
However he was asked by bill bixby to be on the
'the magician' which would have better suited him
But he turned that down too.

My father turned down a lot of things because he
Wanted to concentrate on his passion.

But you can definitely say he was out there trying it all out.
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Where can I learn about the history of chinese snowstorm
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This is going to sound pretty harsh, but you need to pay attention. The name of the trick is not chinese snowstorm. It is called "Snowstorm in China." That, by the way, is the way I originally wrote it here.

First of all, you must learn how to spell. When you spell Chinese with a small c, you have misspelled it.

Second, you need to learn how to use Google. If you had googled either Han Ping Chien or Snowstorm in China, you would have found everything you need to know.

You have already wasted a ten days, expecting us to spoonfeed you a presentation. I'm through. I hope the rest of the people here are, too.
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I apologize bill, I have been working very hard on a presentation. I just thought I would learn more if I spoke (or typed) directly to people that new about the sort then I would learn more. If I wanted to do a simple poster on something boring but easy than I would've. This project was supposed to give us a chance to learn about something that we were interested in. So I don't expect you to help me unless you would like to. This presentation is supposed to be fun and I just thought it would be fun to talk to you guys. I'm sorry Bill, I didn't know you were so up tight about information of the sort but you certainly don't have to share information with me if you don't want to. I just thought I'd ask, I didn't mean to sound pushy. If anyone else felt like bill you can feel free to tell me. You didn't have to help me, just thought I'd ask. I've been doing all of the research I was just asking where I can learn about this sort of information. I hope nobody else took this the wrong way, I certainly didn't mean it the way Bill said it.
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Mitchell, Bill was only telling you certain things because if you don't get
your information correct you will only feed misinformation.

We all are willing to help but you really need to take the initiative to
search out what you are interested in. And the best way is to read books.
If you have any questions after reading the materials that is what we
are here for.

If you are stuck on something specific then ask.

The fun in learning is finding the information on your own.

...

With that said, my "MADE IN CHINA" lecture video is up and ready for
anyone interested in viewing it. Just email me and I will forward the
link and passcode on...
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